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GOP's Filibuster Strategy Could Backfire (Tom Raum)
AP ^ | 4/16/05 | Tom Raum

Posted on 04/16/2005 2:53:41 PM PDT by Jean S

Edited on 04/16/2005 2:54:27 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: T.L.Sink
I am further outraged because the Senate rule (22) allowing filibusters is clearly UNCONSTITUTIONAL no matter by whom employed!

No it isn't. The Constitution allows the Senate and House to set their own rules. The filibuster does not change the number of votes needed to approve a nominee, just how to get that vote.

61 posted on 04/17/2005 5:22:04 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

He's right. But hey, why give up a chance to whine in a few years?


62 posted on 04/18/2005 1:14:09 PM PDT by Bella_Bru (www.JewsforJudaism.org)
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To: Non-Sequitur
No it isn't. The Constitution allows the Senate and House to set their own rules. The filibuster does not change the number of votes needed to approve a nominee, just how to get that vote.

A hypothetical that fits your premise: Senate rules that 95 Senators have to agree to vote on ALL matters that come before the Senate. Treaties, budgets, spending bills, etc. Since they rarely get around to meeting this threshold, the Senate rarely votes on these matters. Presidential prerogative and House bills are bottled up due to a Senate rule.

According to the principle you describe, this is Constitutional because the Senate hasn't actually conducted a vote.

63 posted on 04/18/2005 1:20:27 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
That's right. And if we don't do it now, the 'Rats will most assuredly turn around and do it to us anyway, someday in the future.

Hell, attitudes like that are the reason he got his @$$ handed to him in 96'. I bet his wife thinks differently. I wonder why the AP is not quoting her?

64 posted on 04/18/2005 1:23:18 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: Cboldt
According to the principle you describe, this is Constitutional because the Senate hasn't actually conducted a vote.

According to the Constitution it would be.

65 posted on 04/18/2005 2:09:12 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Cboldt

I probably didn't make it very clear but I was not
suggesting the Senate rule was unconstitutional - of
course I know they can set their rules - but that the
filibuster applied to an issue that doesn't require a
supermajority IS, the confirmation of judicial nominees.
In fact this rule can be removed by simple majority.


66 posted on 04/18/2005 5:06:26 PM PDT by T.L.Sink (stopew)
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