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Bush: No passports at borders
Fox.com ^ | 4/15 | Fox News

Posted on 04/15/2005 6:49:37 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility

WASHINGTON — Plans requiring passports from people entering the United States don't pass muster with President Bush

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: border; bordersecurity; bush; bushamnesty; illegal; illegalaliens; immigration; minuteman; passports
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To: sam_paine
My post asserts that even if you locked the border up 100% on 9/10/2001 and shut down all immigration and import/export activity (and all commerce)....then bin laden still could've easily pulled off 9/11 with the exact same folks.

Of course because on 9/10/2001 AL-Qaeda was already here you. We should have down a crack down on our immigration policy along time ago.

But if you can inhibit terrorism by attacking its source, then that should be priority #1, not by buying MORE donut eating border patrols.

The donut eating border patrol is just a sterotype. The vast majority of border patrol agents are hardworking and dedicated by have their hands tied behind their backs. As I saw before it is not quantity of the border patrol but more quality that matters, and they can not attain that quality due to political correctness.

181 posted on 04/15/2005 1:23:37 PM PDT by Evolution
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To: Evolution
Ok. Then we agree, mostly.

There should be smart (read quality) improvements in border security, not wholesale mindless build-a-fence quantity spending.

You mark both ends of my concern----there should'a been a crackdown internally to ferret out the terrorists before 9/11, -and- there should be smarter not just more spending on border security.

Where border security diverges from preventing terrorism is that the 9/11 hijackers would not have been stopped by any amount of INS action, but only by better FBI action which I think we all agree s0cked bigtime.

Hence my position is counter to all the raving about "closed borders."

"Closed borders" means less money spent on "internal terror prevention" which means MORE TERRORISM THREAT.

182 posted on 04/15/2005 1:40:05 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Netizen
Maybe this would be a good time to start getting Tancredo's name more recognition. Start plastering his name all over the place. Get him more visible. That way people will already be familiar with who he his when it comes time to start thinking about the next President.

I like Tom. Have met him a couple of times. I was in his district in Colorado when he first ran for Congress. I know he is pro military and of course, his stance on our pathetic border security is well known. Having said that, I'm not sure he is even interested, but if so, he does need visibility, and above all, a well rounded platform of positions. It will be hard for him to gain the name recognition of some of the front runners, like Jeb, Bill Owens, Condie Rice, Bill Fritz and a few more. Nonetheless, if he decides he is interested, I would support him.

183 posted on 04/15/2005 2:02:51 PM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: ClintonBeGone
He's certainly one of the few demagogue's. Of course he's got his own 'basement' issues.

'Basement' issues? Ok, whatever. Like anybody knows what the heck you're talking about.

184 posted on 04/15/2005 8:02:42 PM PDT by judgeandjury
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To: judgeandjury
Don't think everyone has the same level of intelligence as you.
185 posted on 04/15/2005 8:09:30 PM PDT by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: el_doctor2
...Why not do an Illegals Sweep.

Ditto! Also, why don't we enforce existing immigration laws to the Nth degree. The "wading across the Rio Grande" issue is being addressed by the Minutemen - volunteers who want to help their country resolve this problem. Passports, by the way, are good for 10 years and are an impecable source of identification.

US Passport Information

186 posted on 04/15/2005 8:26:03 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: Personal Responsibility
I'm fed up -- the RNC will not get another dollar from me until they prove they can act responsibly. Bush has been a total disappoint about the border.

It's a perverse joke that we have "Homeland Security" while the Republicans including Bush AND the Demonrats for that matter do NOTHING about the porous borders.

187 posted on 04/15/2005 8:30:05 PM PDT by wayne_shrugged
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To: Alex Marko
Whatever party that nominates a moderate will win.

I don't think it's gonna go that way. I think the parties are going to be more polarized than ever. It will be the party that doesn't "go squishy" on their issues that will win.

Moderates. Bah! ESPECIALLY no squishiness on the borders.

188 posted on 04/15/2005 8:33:01 PM PDT by madison10
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To: bahblahbah

I have always used my passport between Canada-US, mexic0-US and Cayman-US... No big deal... Sped things up really...


189 posted on 04/15/2005 8:35:22 PM PDT by ARA
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To: Pondman88

I agree with you.

It costs about $100 (plus costs of photos) and a bunch of time to get one passport. 15 bucks less for children. So if a family of five just wants to drive through for a minute to get to a state, or just go across to go to a restaurant or visit the Falls, that's nearly $500 extra and a lot of hassle. And you have to wait six weeks to get it.

WHY? WHEN ILLEGALS ARE FREELY STREAMING ACROSS THE SOUTHERN BORDER? WHEN PEOPLE COME HERE LEGALLY AND DECIDE TO STAY ILLEGALLY, AND NO ONE GOES AFTER THEM?

The lack of a passport requirement has precious little to do with the illegal immigrant problem or terrorism. I'm with Bush on this one, it's a silly hassle.


190 posted on 04/15/2005 9:09:06 PM PDT by DameAutour
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To: ClintonBeGone
Don't think everyone has the same level of intelligence as you.

I agree that not everyone is as intelligent as I am.

191 posted on 04/15/2005 9:17:13 PM PDT by judgeandjury
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