[blam]

GGG Ping.

"It's a mystery to us why the ancestors of people and orangutans were excluded from it."

Maybe neither were in Africa when this was going on.

Also, has anyone ever noticed that Orangutans have the same shade hair as red-headed humans. Hmmmm...

[xJones]

Cheetah, we hardly knew ye....

[blam]

Sundaland

[Getready]

Could this information mean the the chimps and other primates
do NOT share the same DNA as most humans, and that this is genetic evidence that
they are not actually related?

I have noticed, that if the DNA sequences are similar, it
proves that there is an evolutionay connection, yet if some DNA sequences
are not shared it doesn't prove that there no connection.
Why this disparity in interpretation of this information?

Also, if some of our DNA is due to viral transfection, how
can anybody realistically say that analysis of DNA sequences
can prove any evolutionary connection (since all genomes could have
been selectively, and / or variably effected or "poisoned"?
It would greatly smear the geneitc lines of connections, leaving
it with a low probability to detect who was related to
who (genetic-wise)

[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

. Pascal Gagneux of the University of California, San Diego and his colleagues then proposed that this genomic feature was a reflection of an HIV-like retroviral epidemic among ancestral chimps nearly 3 million years ago that left only a few to pass on rare resistance genes.

Obviously an orangutan CIA plot to wipe out Africans.

Today's chimps are thus the offspring of unusually virus-resistant animals. "Retroviruses are not just diabolical [killers]," says Gagneux. "Under the right conditions, such viruses contribute to the evolution of their hosts."

Seems just the opposite if these RVs retarded chimp evolution vis a vis immune humans, as the article seems to be implying. And the surviving resistant chimps were already resistant hence it is only demonstrative of possible micro-evolution.

[SunkenCiv]

A GGG ping, with some old links.

The Scars of Evolution
by Elaine Morgan

"The most remarkable aspect of Todaro's discovery emerged when he examined Homo Sapiens for the 'baboon marker'. It was not there... Todaro drew one firm conclusion. 'The ancestors of man did not develop in a geographical area where they would have been in contact with the baboon. I would argue that the data we are presenting imply a non-African origin of man millions of years ago.'"

Primary Literature by Jonathan Marks
Benveniste, Raoul E. and Todaro, George J. (1976) Evolution of type C viral genes: Evidence for an Asian origin of man. Nature, 261:101-107. This study also applied DNA hybridization to the apes. They found a 3-way split.
socrates.berkeley.edu/~jonmarks/biblio.html

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[LiteKeeper]

YEC INTREP

[balch3]

Darwinist propopganda.

[Pharmboy]

Great post. This might turn out to be a very important finding.

[-=Wing_0_Walker=-]

A major fish kill a hundred million years before that caused fish to walk on the earth. Once upon a time ....

[SunkenCiv]

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[SunkenCiv]

Human Ancestors Went Out Of Africa And Then Came Back... [1998]
ScienceDaily | Friday, August 7, 1998 | adapted from New York University materials
Posted on 12/17/2007 8:37:11 PM EST by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1940963/posts

[nagant]

The significant aspect of this story is unstated. Humans inherited the ability to exogenate viruses into our DNA, and code around them, from our old-world primate ancestors. The fact that one virus affects one species worse than another is not news. The exogenation ability is limited to rare individuals with cells capable of providing energy at the proper levels for their epigenes to recode without effect.

Humans take advantage of this ability by developing “leaky gut” via the zonulin intestinal enzyme, and thereby infecting humans. The process kills huge swaths of people when populations become dense. It inoculates future humans against specific viruses. And it introduces random changes into the gene pool.

This process represents the reason why humans split from our primate ancestors. It also answers the questions of why and how humans made such rapid evolutionary changes in only 2 million years.