Pope John Paul II is *NOT* Dead (FOX Now reporting Heart/Brain still functioning)

April 1, 2005

[mjtobias]

Fiat Voluntas Tua

Thy will be done.

Sia fatta la tua volonta'

[Hieronymus]

If he lost consciousness fairly recently, then he probably completed the Divine Mercy Novena after midnight and will be quite content to celebrate the Feast in Heaven.

[murphE]

Out of respect for a great man, I will step down. Some other time...

Noble. : )

[SolomoninSouthDakota]

"I feel inspired by such an awsome symbol of our devotion and love of God this vigil lends to. We love you John Paul II. We love you and we just simply find it so hard to see you go. We know that you will be with the Lord soon and we hope we will be with him one day too BUT it hurts so much. A flood of our own departed loved ones memories is so part of what we feel today. Bless you beloved Pope John Paul II. No one can silence our love and devotion to you today."

I know, the loss is hard to describe. God is with us in our pain and sorrow.

[mjtobias]

And I like your screen name.

[jhw61]

The loss is so great. Pope John Paul II has been the Pope since I graduated from High School.....my whole adult life! It is hard to come to grips with a symbol of true, pure love and devotion to God who is dying as we feel we have never needed him so much in our lives as now. Although no one ever deserves our praise more highly than our Lord, this mortal man is so close to the Lord than anyone we will ever know of in our lifetimes that words cannot comprehend.

[Texaggie79]

Who said? I was unaware of elected officials getting special rewards.

[Aggie Mama]

There was a picture posted yesterday that showed JPII in prayer looking as though in Agony. It reminded me so much of Christ's Passion. I know that he is always in prayer--something that I aspire to, but get so distracted by raising children and daily life.

[SolomoninSouthDakota]

Our hearts are one on this. I too graduated from HS the year he was chosen, the year of the three popes. That is also the year I entered the seminary. That, I suppose, is how my spiritual bond with him was formed. Entering into a new and somewhat scary path and having a new, vigorous, POLE!, as pope. Seeing him strengthen Solidarity, seeing his manly witness to faith.
BTW, just saw a bit on 20/20 and they were having a discussion on the merits of moving JPII's cause for canonization. That was surprising. An American bishop was saying he was sure John Paul II is a saint!

[SolomoninSouthDakota]

I believe St. Paul writes somewhere that God will not test us beyond our means. Obviously with the charge to help take down state sponsored atheistic communism and to stem the tide of modern materialism and nihilism John Paul the Second was "given" an extraordinary "test" to pass. But, as St. Paul wrote, God would also give him the means. And to me, that means some exceptional GRACES which he, by his cooperation with the will of God through total consecration to the Virgin Mother Mary, in part earned himself. Sanctity, or even being "saved" for that matter is not soley a one way street. Karol Wotyla is also a "self-made man". He is a true hero.

[Krodg]

Noble. : )

No. Christian. :-)

[JustPiper]

Sorry it took me so long but Freedom's legs is a slippery sucker -g-

Dragging Freedom into the church and showing the sign of the cross

[jbarkley]

I have heard of the silver hammer tradition - however, I have also heard that it will not be used this time, from a completely unconfirmed source.

I'm turning in for the night. Prayers for our beloved Pope John Paul II.

[softwarecreator]

It did finally let me know where the Beatles got the idea for the song Maxwells Silver Hammer.

I thought they got the idea for this song from a real court case that was going on at that time (around '67-'68), but I might be wrong.

[Tree of Liberty]

Apparently a high vatican official taps the Pope on the head three times with a ceremonial silver hammer while saying the popes name three times. Can anyone else confirm this tradition?

Hugh Hewitt said, this afternoon, that this particular ceremony hadn't been carried out since 1903.

[SolomoninSouthDakota]

I read today in a reference to a Time magazine photo that it was done on John XXIII.

[A.A. Cunningham]

Incorrect. Belief alone is not enough. Scripture makes that clear, repeatedly. One must not only talk the talk but walk the walk.

"Wherefore, my dearly beloved, (as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only but much more now in my absence) with fear and trembling work out your salvation."
Philippians 2:12

2 Timothy 2:11-12; 1 John 3:19-24; Romans 11:22-23; Matthew 18:21-35; 1 Corinthians 15:1-2; 2 Peter 2:20-21

[A.A. Cunningham]

All can now(sic) their eternal destiny before they die.

Incorrect. One won't know until their particular judgment.

"Wherefore, my dearly beloved, (as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only but much more now in my absence) with fear and trembling work out your salvation." Philippians 2:12

"Wherefore, he that thinketh himself to stand, let him take heed lest he fall." 1 Corinthians 10:12