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Pope John Paul II Has Gone to His Heavenly Home with God 2:37 pm EST
BBC News Online World Edition ^ | April 1, 2005

Posted on 03/31/2005 9:54:01 PM PST by bd476

Edited on 04/02/2005 7:53:51 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

April 2, 2005 7:25 a.m. PST Update

From Rome CBS Radio News: (rough transcription of update)

The Vatican has been transparent in allowing news media access to information about Pope John Paul II. Pope John Paul II is responsible for the change in how the Vatican views the media.

At this time, Pope John Paul II's condition is unchanged.

His heart and kidneys are failing. The Vatican said that this does not suggest that he is suffering.

He has a compromised state of consciousness, yet he is not in a comatose state.

He drifts in and out of consciousness. One Vatican source said that it appeared that the Pope is resting with his eyes shut.

Pope John Paul II has responded by opening his eyes when spoken to. He has also tried to speak in the past few hours.

An Aide assisted Pope John Paul II in writing a message to his beloved staff gathered in the Papal apartment. The Pope asked them not to be sad for him.

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Special report live from CBS News at the Vatican April 2, 2005


(This is a rough transcript of the CBS news conference with the Italian translator and Vatican representative)

Substantially and varied (blood values?) very serious very grave

We hope to serve ... earlier initial state of consciousness AT 7:30 a.m. we celebrated of Mass with the Pope he is breathing, labored or slightly...

Pope had in mind young people...

This is difficult ...

Pope seemed to refer to young people when he repeatedly seemed to say "I've been looking for you and now you've come to me... "

We've been able to reconstruct what he said, this is what he said.

We have this update now for you until this evening...

I cannot confirm the particular rumors ... (inaudible)

Probably around 5:30 or 6:00 p.m. we will have another update for you...

He is not in a coma.

When we speak to him he opens his eyes.

He seems to be receptive.

We are not talking about coma here.

Question from media: Who is always present with the Pope?

Answer: Monsignor (inaudible) the other Secretary to the Holy Father the three Nuns of the Holy Father, his personal physician.

Thank you very much and we will see you later.

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'Serious' Pope has heart failure

Pope John Paul II has suffered a cardiac arrest and is in a grave condition, the Vatican has announced.

The urgent communique came hours after the Pope's health worsened with a high fever caused by an infection.

"Following a urinary tract infection, septic shock and a cardiocirculatory collapse occurred," Vatican spokesman Navarro-Valls said in his statement.

The Pope was also given the last rites - the Catholic sacrament for the sick and dying, the spokesman said.

But he said the pontiff remained "conscious, lucid and tranquil".

The emergency department chief at Rome's Gemelli hospital said on Thursday the Pope would not be taken to hospital for the time being.

Some observers said this suggested it meant he was too weak to be moved at all.

Sombre mood

Small groups of faithful gathered at St Peter's Square in Rome to pray for the Pope's speedy recovery.

However, the mood in the Vatican is sombre, the BBC's David Willey in Rome reports.

Prelates are openly expressing pessimism about the possibility of the Pope ever resuming the guidance of his one billion-strong church, our correspondent says.

The pontiff is being fed through a nasal tube to aid his recovery from throat surgery last month.

The Pope had appeared briefly at the window of his Vatican apartment on Easter Sunday to bless the faithful, but was not able to speak.

It was the first time during his 26-year pontificate that the Pope delegated the main Easter ceremonies to his cardinals.

'Lost weight'

On Thursday afternoon, the Pope's temperature soared to 40 degrees C (104F), Italian media reported.

He developed breathing troubles and has difficulty in swallowing as a result of the progress of Parkinson's Disease, an incurable condition from which he has been suffering for nearly a decade.

Since his throat surgery, he has lost about 19 kg (42 lb), Father Hejmo said, which leaves him more vulnerable to infections.

The Pope's private doctor Renato Buzzetti is in charge of his medical treatment in his private apartment at the Vatican.

So far this year the Pope has had two spells in hospital where he received treatment for breathing problems and underwent an operation on his throat.



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KEYWORDS: johnpaul; johnpaulii; jp2; pope; rc; romancatholic; theholysee; vatican
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
Media circus commences on FOX...

They are interviewing a priest and it is so lame...like the Cardinals are going to campaign!

Kate

861 posted on 04/01/2005 5:55:15 PM PST by Kate of Spice Island (When I was young we used to go "skinny dipping," now I just "chunkydunk.")
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To: rdl6989

Well, I'm sure they are probably clearing their calendars for the next several weeks. In any case once he does pass it will be followed by nine days of mourning then the conclave will assemble in the sistine chapel and the process will begin then...

Without JPII, Poland would not be free and the Soviet Union would still exist/be a threat to world peace. He IS the father of modern-day Poland. It's the only country where he hasn't rode in the armored popemobile.


862 posted on 04/01/2005 6:08:40 PM PST by Schwaeky (Sede Vacante)
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To: Schwaeky

http://www.guardian.co.uk/pope/story/0,12272,1450821,00.html

Poles stage vigils for national hero


863 posted on 04/01/2005 6:11:36 PM PST by rdl6989
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To: Kate of Spice Island

Even if the cardinals did a little campaigning they are sworn to utmost secrecy about not talking about details of the conclave...this is just media shennanigans.

There will be people who want the job, and no doubt they will do what they can to line up support...or there will be people who want certain people in the job, and they may do some quickie lobbying, but they don't have a lot of time to do any of this.

And it's done prayerfully, and knowing what's at stake.


864 posted on 04/01/2005 6:13:23 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: PhiKapMom

I can't speak from any other experience because I was born in Feb of 1979, just a few short months after he became Pope (JPII was elected by the conclave of cardinals in October of 78), so for my generation it is like having FDR as president for the early baby boomers and maybe those at the tail end of the WWII generation--all they knew for as long as they could remember...


865 posted on 04/01/2005 6:14:04 PM PST by Schwaeky (Sede Vacante)
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To: Schwaeky

In my mind I cannot even remember what the Pope looked like before Pope John Paul.


866 posted on 04/01/2005 6:33:20 PM PST by PhiKapMom
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To: rdl6989

I had tears in my eyes this afternoon when CNN's reporter was live from Krakow and was talking about how thousands of Poles had showed up at the home of the Archbishop to pray for the Holy Father.


867 posted on 04/01/2005 6:37:31 PM PST by PhiKapMom
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To: PhiKapMom
In my mind I cannot even remember what the Pope looked like before Pope John Paul.

Same here .. I kind of remember Paul VI .. same with John Paul I

John Paul II has been Pope since I was 14 years old

868 posted on 04/01/2005 6:49:25 PM PST by Mo1
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To: Mo1

Paul John Paul II has been such a bigger than life figure that it blocked out everyone else. Vatican News Service is getting ready to close for several hours.


869 posted on 04/01/2005 7:01:47 PM PST by PhiKapMom
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To: PhiKapMom
"Paul John Paul II has been such a bigger than life figure that it blocked out everyone else"

Beg to differ. Karol Wotyla lived his life in such a grand way and with such obedience to God's will that the term "bigger than life" will never be apropos to him. His life WAS hugh!
870 posted on 04/01/2005 7:31:52 PM PST by SolomoninSouthDakota (Daschle is gone.)
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To: SolomoninSouthDakota

I agree with you -- I was talking about not remembering what the Popes before him looked like.


871 posted on 04/01/2005 8:07:12 PM PST by PhiKapMom
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To: PhiKapMom

There are many stories about the Pope's sense of humor and love of laughter. I'm looking forward to hearing them in the coming days as events of his life are replayed in the media.


872 posted on 04/01/2005 8:09:27 PM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: PhiKapMom

No sweat. I was only making a dramatic literary point.


873 posted on 04/01/2005 8:22:41 PM PST by SolomoninSouthDakota (Daschle is gone.)
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To: Ciexyz

This is from the BBC website:

Cardinals - who will elect a new pope after John Paul dies - are arriving in Rome from all over the world, the Italian media have reported.

Link

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4402323.stm


874 posted on 04/01/2005 8:29:39 PM PST by rdl6989
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To: Mo1

I was about the same age and I very vaguely remember Pope Paul VI and the only reason I remember anything about JP I is because (1)of houw short a time he was Pope and (2) JP II took JP I's name in his honor. If I wasn't attending a Catholic school I don't even think I would have remembered that.


875 posted on 04/01/2005 8:31:29 PM PST by Kate of Spice Island (When I was young we used to go "skinny dipping," now I just "chunkydunk.")
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To: rdl6989

Off to check out that link. Thanks!


876 posted on 04/01/2005 8:31:43 PM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
I just thought is was so tasteless of the media person to ask the priest that he was interviewing, like it was a joke or something...or just plain ignorance or tackiness on his part.

Kate

877 posted on 04/01/2005 8:33:08 PM PST by Kate of Spice Island (When I was young we used to go "skinny dipping," now I just "chunkydunk.")
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To: Kate of Spice Island
(1)of houw short a time he was Pope and (2) JP II took JP I's name in his honor. If I wasn't attending a Catholic school I don't even think I would have remembered that.

I remember the day Pope JPII become the Pope

It was the day of my brothers Wedding and my aunt (she was a nun) had us all watching the TV and when it was announce, she lead us all in prayer

878 posted on 04/01/2005 8:35:29 PM PST by Mo1
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To: Mo1

I remember sitting in the classroom at schol and they either announced that JP I had died or that JP II had been chosen...but I just don't remember. If there wasn't info on TV, I wouldn't even get that "snapshot" of myself sitting there in the uniform as I recall just about nothing of that year (and other parts of life) due to amnesia. I went form no memory at all to throwing one heck of a tantrum in the hospital as I remembered something extremely important based on what I overheard and then the rest has just come back gradually. I even told my doctor my name by having cheated and read it off of the arm band and wasn't really certain...


879 posted on 04/01/2005 8:47:06 PM PST by Kate of Spice Island (When I was young we used to go "skinny dipping," now I just "chunkydunk.")
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To: Mo1

that is a great memory


880 posted on 04/01/2005 8:48:22 PM PST by ruoflaw
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