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Pope John Paul II Has Gone to His Heavenly Home with God 2:37 pm EST
BBC News Online World Edition ^ | April 1, 2005

Posted on 03/31/2005 9:54:01 PM PST by bd476

Edited on 04/02/2005 7:53:51 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

April 2, 2005 7:25 a.m. PST Update

From Rome CBS Radio News: (rough transcription of update)

The Vatican has been transparent in allowing news media access to information about Pope John Paul II. Pope John Paul II is responsible for the change in how the Vatican views the media.

At this time, Pope John Paul II's condition is unchanged.

His heart and kidneys are failing. The Vatican said that this does not suggest that he is suffering.

He has a compromised state of consciousness, yet he is not in a comatose state.

He drifts in and out of consciousness. One Vatican source said that it appeared that the Pope is resting with his eyes shut.

Pope John Paul II has responded by opening his eyes when spoken to. He has also tried to speak in the past few hours.

An Aide assisted Pope John Paul II in writing a message to his beloved staff gathered in the Papal apartment. The Pope asked them not to be sad for him.

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Special report live from CBS News at the Vatican April 2, 2005


(This is a rough transcript of the CBS news conference with the Italian translator and Vatican representative)

Substantially and varied (blood values?) very serious very grave

We hope to serve ... earlier initial state of consciousness AT 7:30 a.m. we celebrated of Mass with the Pope he is breathing, labored or slightly...

Pope had in mind young people...

This is difficult ...

Pope seemed to refer to young people when he repeatedly seemed to say "I've been looking for you and now you've come to me... "

We've been able to reconstruct what he said, this is what he said.

We have this update now for you until this evening...

I cannot confirm the particular rumors ... (inaudible)

Probably around 5:30 or 6:00 p.m. we will have another update for you...

He is not in a coma.

When we speak to him he opens his eyes.

He seems to be receptive.

We are not talking about coma here.

Question from media: Who is always present with the Pope?

Answer: Monsignor (inaudible) the other Secretary to the Holy Father the three Nuns of the Holy Father, his personal physician.

Thank you very much and we will see you later.

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'Serious' Pope has heart failure

Pope John Paul II has suffered a cardiac arrest and is in a grave condition, the Vatican has announced.

The urgent communique came hours after the Pope's health worsened with a high fever caused by an infection.

"Following a urinary tract infection, septic shock and a cardiocirculatory collapse occurred," Vatican spokesman Navarro-Valls said in his statement.

The Pope was also given the last rites - the Catholic sacrament for the sick and dying, the spokesman said.

But he said the pontiff remained "conscious, lucid and tranquil".

The emergency department chief at Rome's Gemelli hospital said on Thursday the Pope would not be taken to hospital for the time being.

Some observers said this suggested it meant he was too weak to be moved at all.

Sombre mood

Small groups of faithful gathered at St Peter's Square in Rome to pray for the Pope's speedy recovery.

However, the mood in the Vatican is sombre, the BBC's David Willey in Rome reports.

Prelates are openly expressing pessimism about the possibility of the Pope ever resuming the guidance of his one billion-strong church, our correspondent says.

The pontiff is being fed through a nasal tube to aid his recovery from throat surgery last month.

The Pope had appeared briefly at the window of his Vatican apartment on Easter Sunday to bless the faithful, but was not able to speak.

It was the first time during his 26-year pontificate that the Pope delegated the main Easter ceremonies to his cardinals.

'Lost weight'

On Thursday afternoon, the Pope's temperature soared to 40 degrees C (104F), Italian media reported.

He developed breathing troubles and has difficulty in swallowing as a result of the progress of Parkinson's Disease, an incurable condition from which he has been suffering for nearly a decade.

Since his throat surgery, he has lost about 19 kg (42 lb), Father Hejmo said, which leaves him more vulnerable to infections.

The Pope's private doctor Renato Buzzetti is in charge of his medical treatment in his private apartment at the Vatican.

So far this year the Pope has had two spells in hospital where he received treatment for breathing problems and underwent an operation on his throat.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: johnpaul; johnpaulii; jp2; pope; rc; romancatholic; theholysee; vatican
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To: bd476

If anyone left, you cannot tell it from the pictures of St. Peter's Square. It is packed with people.


701 posted on 04/01/2005 1:17:16 PM PST by PhiKapMom
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To: MEG33; Mo1; PhiKapMom; TomGuy; lainie; Petronski; Ernest_at_the_Beach; BurbankKarl; onyx; ...

Update ping.


702 posted on 04/01/2005 1:17:54 PM PST by bd476
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To: bd476


Looks to me like more folks have come to Saint Peter's
Square, than have left.


703 posted on 04/01/2005 1:18:38 PM PST by onyx (Robert Frost "Good fences make good neighbors." Build the fence, Mr. President and Congress.)
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To: PhiKapMom
Christine Amanpour is talking about the Vatican is saying the Pope is getting ready to surrender himself to the Almighty.

If it be the Lord's will to take John Paul II today...of course He could have other things in mind, we can pray...


704 posted on 04/01/2005 1:19:00 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: PhiKapMom

I was trying to figure out what it would be like to be in that crowd. Somehow I think it would a very peaceful experience.


705 posted on 04/01/2005 1:19:08 PM PST by bd476
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To: proud American in Canada

I know the feeling. I am listening to Christine Amanpour relating her experiences in covering the Pope and she is extremely interesting and speaking with emotion about the Pope. She has such respect for this Pope. I am officially in shock!



706 posted on 04/01/2005 1:19:28 PM PST by PhiKapMom
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To: bd476

They are saying the crowd is silent now. I cannot fathom what it must be like to be in the crowd as they keep the vigil for the Pope.


707 posted on 04/01/2005 1:22:01 PM PST by PhiKapMom
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To: PhiKapMom

"She has such respect for this Pope."

Yes. He is/was such an amazing person, respect for him transcends politics.

"I am officially in shock!"

I agree--I never thought I'd see the day when I'd enjoy listening to Judy and Christiane have a discussion, LOL!


708 posted on 04/01/2005 1:23:24 PM PST by proud American in Canada
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To: onyx

It's beautiful. I hope His Holiness is aware of their presence and is comfortable, not in pain. I have this sense that he'd be smiling about something funny with his closest associates if he is not in pain nor very weak.


709 posted on 04/01/2005 1:24:48 PM PST by bd476
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To: AmericanInTokyo

well, we had that mistake out earlier by some news sources and Foxnews was one of them.


710 posted on 04/01/2005 1:25:37 PM PST by ruoflaw
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To: PhiKapMom

I hope that is not significant. Meditation, prayers, rosaries being said, awesome moments.


711 posted on 04/01/2005 1:25:58 PM PST by bd476
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To: areafiftyone

She's super cute, though.


712 posted on 04/01/2005 1:28:52 PM PST by BaBaStooey
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To: bd476

She said people are very quiet for having this many people in the Square. The reporter from the Vatican has been there for the last two Popes who died as well. No wonder he has so much information.


713 posted on 04/01/2005 1:29:45 PM PST by PhiKapMom
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To: BaBaStooey

I'm a female - LOL I prefer the men newscasters (but alas there aren't any real good looking ones) but she is very pretty!


714 posted on 04/01/2005 1:30:50 PM PST by areafiftyone (The Democrat's Mind: The Hamster's dead but the wheel's still spinning!)
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To: PhiKapMom

I don't think it will be long now.


715 posted on 04/01/2005 1:34:31 PM PST by ruoflaw
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To: areafiftyone

Robert Monihan, Editor from Inside the Vatican, is now on CNN. He is very good. Explaining the Pope wanted to go through the Stations of the Cross, then he said he would like to hear Psalm 119, verses 25-32.


716 posted on 04/01/2005 1:35:12 PM PST by PhiKapMom
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To: ruoflaw

I don't think so either. Monihan was talking about how the Pope did not want painkillers so he would be lucid as he went through the stages today and prayed.


717 posted on 04/01/2005 1:36:14 PM PST by PhiKapMom
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To: PhiKapMom

25 DALETH. My soul cleaveth unto the dust: quicken thou me according to thy word.

26 I have declared my ways, and thou heardest me: teach me thy statutes.

27 Make me to understand the way of thy precepts: so shall I talk of thy wondrous works.

28 My soul melteth for heaviness: strengthen thou me according unto thy word.

29 Remove from me the way of lying: and grant me thy law graciously.

30 I have chosen the way of truth: thy judgments have I laid before me.

31 I have stuck unto thy testimonies: O LORD, put me not to shame.

32 I will run the way of thy commandments, when thou shalt enlarge my heart.


718 posted on 04/01/2005 1:37:52 PM PST by lainie
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To: PhiKapMom

In another hour and one half, it'll be April 2nd in Rome.
If he's being called home soon, I pray he makes it to the 2nd.


719 posted on 04/01/2005 1:38:07 PM PST by onyx (Robert Frost "Good fences make good neighbors." Build the fence, Mr. President and Congress.)
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To: PhiKapMom

Oh, talking about identifying with Christ in his passion...no painkillers...just like Jesus refused the gall mixed with wine...

Back...I had gone to church, and said the stations and rosary for the Holy Father...


720 posted on 04/01/2005 1:39:06 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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