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To: Soul Seeker
A Life was on line. Everything else including economic reform should be secondary for everyone.

Losing the nuclear option means losing millions of lives. Are those lives "secondary?"

As to the "religious right", perhaps you've noted that "conservatives" were also NOT in favor on any action on part of Congress and the president in this case. These same "conservatives" have delivered the same possibility they may no longer vote for the GOP. Are you worried about their continued alliegance?

I'm one of those conservatives. I have my limits. Those limits have been reached and exceeded by a wide margin. I have been repeatedly accused of Satanism and worse because I didn't agree in every jot and tittle of the Terri Schiavo mob's agenda, and I am appalled to hear that the GOP has hinge-head with respect to these people. I am suspending donations to the GOP until such time as I am satisfied that they have taken steps to prevent a repetition of this fiasco. I am not going to work GOTV in 2006 if the religious right remains in the driver's seat. And, if the Terribot mob doesn't cool it, I won't even bother showing up to vote. And the GOP is going to hear about it in detail.

Revile me all you want. Just don't expect my up-to-now-undying support in return.

Loyalty is a two-way street. The religious right has shown exactly zero loyalty in return for the tremendous loyalty given them in the past two weeks. Until they make it clear that they are going to go just as far in their loyalty to the GOP as the GOP did in loyalty to them, I am staying out of the political fray.

If anything once the emotion calms down Christians will be more determined than ever to correct the Judiciary, and they'll seek the GOP as the vehicle to make this happen. Through ending filibusters..through insitance the GOP use its constitutional authority to discipline the Judiciary. It's already begun.

The window slammed shut on the nuclear option because the less-than-fanatic end of the GOP caucus now has very real reason to question the judgement of the leadership.

The religious right just cost us bigtime. And they're threatening to cost us more because they didn't get their way. The GOP can either be really stupid, and try to appease them, or the GOP can start treating the religious right as the spoiled, ungrateful children that they act like. I will not support stupidity with my time, treasure, and talents.

83 posted on 03/31/2005 3:51:04 PM PST by Poohbah (I'm in the WPPFF)
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To: Poohbah

Waaaaa!!!! The religious right is not going anywhere. But I don't blame them (us) for taking this opportunity to try to get the Pub Senators to have some backbone!!


102 posted on 03/31/2005 4:04:22 PM PST by westmichman (Pray for global warming. Friend of Ronnie -(stolen from The Patriot))
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To: Poohbah

Ah. I understand. Sit down. Shut up. And vote for us once every two and four years.

If we don't, you have the right to blame an election loss on us. If we do, you dismiss we were essential to victory. I understand perfectly. I understand there is real bigotry against Christians among some in the grassroots of the Republican Party without which Republicans would no more be in power than they would be without any of the other core constituencies.

Sounds to as though you are the one that cannot be depended on. So stop the hypocrisy by complaining about the 'religious right' possibly not being supportive when clearly you, yourself, cannot be depended on when you don't get your way.

The door hasn't slammed shut on the Nuke option, not that it matters. Reps or Dem the Judiciary is out of control. The real option isn't more judges but to have power restored to its proper balance, and that only can happen through the Congress.


103 posted on 03/31/2005 4:04:51 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: Poohbah
I am suspending donations to the GOP until such time as I am satisfied that they have taken steps to prevent a repetition of this fiasco. I am not going to work GOTV in 2006 if the religious right remains in the driver's seat. And, if the Terribot mob doesn't cool it, I won't even bother showing up to vote. And the GOP is going to hear about it in detail.

Well, the Dems must be yucking it up just fine today. They pulled off a huge victory by the deliberate death of someone who did nothing wrong.

Their victory is splitting up the GOP coalition, and the emotions of some on this issue was their tool.

108 posted on 03/31/2005 4:09:26 PM PST by narby
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To: Poohbah

An article in our paper said this is costing President Bush on his social security reform as well.


189 posted on 03/31/2005 5:03:08 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Increase Republicans in Congress in 2006!)
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To: Poohbah
The window slammed shut on the nuclear option because the less-than-fanatic end of the GOP caucus now has very real reason to question the judgement of the leadership.

Your first post saying that right-wing religious conservative radical fundamentalist Christians (let me know if I left any out) were not in favor of the "nuclear option" left me all confuzzled. Especially, as the first thing I did upon hearing of the death of Terri was to call my two senators and get their stance on the "nuclear option" and affirm my support of them should they choose to take it.

Now, of course, you are saying that it's the religious right's nuttiness that has scared off the moderates. Can't have it both ways, Grand Poohbah. I don't expect this to prohibit you from trying. Carry on apace.

310 posted on 03/31/2005 8:25:23 PM PST by the808bass
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