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Terri Schiavo has passed away
CNN ^ | 3/31 1005 | CNN

Posted on 03/31/2005 6:55:11 AM PST by Eurotwit

Breaking now on CNN

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To: Eurotwit

Requiescat In Pace


661 posted on 03/31/2005 7:44:37 AM PST by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: Eurotwit

Inevitable, especially given the lack of leadership to protect her. God bless her soul and may he comfort her family.


662 posted on 03/31/2005 7:44:38 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
"Those in the grip of EVIL are displaying their colors. Sadly."

Very sad, although I thought it was their posterior on display rather than simple colors...

663 posted on 03/31/2005 7:44:39 AM PST by Sam's Army (RIP Henry Lee II)
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To: MeekOneGOP

How come it took them 2 hours to report it??!!


664 posted on 03/31/2005 7:44:40 AM PST by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: newzjunkey
so her condition could be checked

Checked for what? Not dying fast enough?

665 posted on 03/31/2005 7:44:50 AM PST by maryz
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To: B Knotts

Pray for Michael Schiavo and George Greer and George Felos.


666 posted on 03/31/2005 7:44:54 AM PST by Petronski (Choose life.)
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To: Xenalyte

I wouldn't have the stomach to go to DU today.

In fact, I will probably just withdraw into prayer and mindless games for a time if history is any indication.

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God - We need you.


667 posted on 03/31/2005 7:44:58 AM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: Eurotwit

And may God have mercy on our souls.


668 posted on 03/31/2005 7:45:21 AM PST by SwinneySwitch (Remember, this is only a temporary exile!)
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To: Grampa Dave

Jeb Bush can probably kiss any higher political ambitions away.


THIS IS NOT ABOUT JEB BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!! I AM YELLING YES!


669 posted on 03/31/2005 7:45:27 AM PST by JFC ( President Bush, You are being prayed for along with our country daily, by millions of us.)
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To: MadIvan; Diogenesis
#596..I respect and appreciate Diogenesis....very much.

But I agree with you, MadIvan....Our country has committed a huge wrong corporately by letting this happen...

..but it's only over for us if we give up.

We are mad now....and we are not giving up!

We will not roll over.

Perhaps, Diogenesis, in spite of the correct list of grievances you posted...

..this....this will be our watershed moment!....The one we cannot walk away from.

I pray this is true.

670 posted on 03/31/2005 7:45:39 AM PST by Guenevere (Sola Gratia)
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To: nmh; ClancyJ
You're using "God's will" in different ways.

This might help:

Whether the will of God is always fulfilled?

Objection 1. It seems that the will of God is not always fulfilled. For the Apostle says (1 Tim. 2:4): "God will have all men to be saved, and to come to the knowledge of the truth." But this does not happen. Therefore the will of God is not always fulfilled.

Objection 2. Further, as is the relation of knowledge to truth, so is that of the will to good. Now God knows all truth. Therefore He wills all good. But not all good actually exists; for much more good might exist. Therefore the will of God is not always fulfilled.

Objection 3. Further, since the will of God is the first cause, it does not exclude intermediate causes. But the effect of a first cause may be hindered by a defect of a secondary cause; as the effect of the motive power may be hindered by the weakness of the limb. Therefore the effect of the divine will may be hindered by a defect of the secondary causes. The will of God, therefore, is not always fulfilled.

On the contrary, It is said (Ps. 113:11): "God hath done all things, whatsoever He would."

I answer that, The will of God must needs always be fulfilled. In proof of which we must consider that since an effect is conformed to the agent according to its form, the rule is the same with active causes as with formal causes. The rule in forms is this: that although a thing may fall short of any particular form, it cannot fall short of the universal form. For though a thing may fail to be, for example, a man or a living being, yet it cannot fail to be a being. Hence the same must happen in active causes. Something may fall outside the order of any particular active cause, but not outside the order of the universal cause; under which all particular causes are included: and if any particular cause fails of its effect, this is because of the hindrance of some other particular cause, which is included in the order of the universal cause. Therefore an effect cannot possibly escape the order of the universal cause. Even in corporeal things this is clearly seen. For it may happen that a star is hindered from producing its effects; yet whatever effect does result, in corporeal things, from this hindrance of a corporeal cause, must be referred through intermediate causes to the universal influence of the first heaven. Since, then, the will of God is the universal cause of all things, it is impossible that the divine will should not produce its effect. Hence that which seems to depart from the divine will in one order, returns into it in another order; as does the sinner, who by sin falls away from the divine will as much as lies in him, yet falls back into the order of that will, when by its justice he is punished.

Reply to Objection 1. The words of the Apostle, "God will have all men to be saved," etc. can be understood in three ways.

First, by a restricted application, in which case they would mean, as Augustine says (De praed. sanct. i, 8: Enchiridion 103), "God wills all men to be saved that are saved, not because there is no man whom He does not wish saved, but because there is no man saved whose salvation He does not will."

Secondly, they can be understood as applying to every class of individuals, not to every individual of each class; in which case they mean that God wills some men of every class and condition to be saved, males and females, Jews and Gentiles, great and small, but not all of every condition.

Thirdly, according to Damascene (De Fide Orth. ii, 29), they are understood of the antecedent will of God; not of the consequent will. This distinction must not be taken as applying to the divine will itself, in which there is nothing antecedent nor consequent, but to the things willed.

To understand this we must consider that everything, in so far as it is good, is willed by God. A thing taken in its primary sense, and absolutely considered, may be good or evil, and yet when some additional circumstances are taken into account, by a consequent consideration may be changed into the contrary. Thus that a man should live is good; and that a man should be killed is evil, absolutely considered. But if in a particular case we add that a man is a murderer or dangerous to society, to kill him is a good; that he live is an evil. Hence it may be said of a just judge, that antecedently he wills all men to live; but consequently wills the murderer to be hanged. In the same way God antecedently wills all men to be saved, but consequently wills some to be damned, as His justice exacts. Nor do we will simply, what we will antecedently, but rather we will it in a qualified manner; for the will is directed to things as they are in themselves, and in themselves they exist under particular qualifications. Hence we will a thing simply inasmuch as we will it when all particular circumstances are considered; and this is what is meant by willing consequently. Thus it may be said that a just judge wills simply the hanging of a murderer, but in a qualified manner he would will him to live, to wit, inasmuch as he is a man. Such a qualified will may be called a willingness rather than an absolute will. Thus it is clear that whatever God simply wills takes place; although what He wills antecedently may not take place.

Reply to Objection 2. An act of the cognitive faculty is according as the thing known is in the knower; while an act of the appetite faculty is directed to things as they exist in themselves. But all that can have the nature of being and truth virtually exists in God, though it does not all exist in created things. Therefore God knows all truth; but does not will all good, except in so far as He wills Himself, in Whom all good virtually exists.

Reply to Objection 3. A first cause can be hindered in its effect by deficiency in the secondary cause, when it is not the universal first cause, including within itself all causes; for then the effect could in no way escape its order. And thus it is with the will of God, as said above.

The Summa Theologica of St. Thomas Aquinas
Second and Revised Edition, 1920
Literally translated by Fathers of the English Dominican Province
Online Edition Copyright © 2003 by Kevin Knight
Nihil Obstat. F. Innocentius Apap, O.P., S.T.M., Censor. Theol.
Imprimatur. Edus. Canonicus Surmont, Vicarius Generalis. Westmonasterii.
APPROBATIO ORDINIS
Nihil Obstat. F. Raphael Moss, O.P., S.T.L. and F. Leo Moore, O.P., S.T.L.
Imprimatur. F. Beda Jarrett, O.P., S.T.L., A.M., Prior Provincialis Angliæ

MARIÆ IMMACULATÆ - SEDI SAPIENTIÆ

671 posted on 03/31/2005 7:45:43 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: stranger and pilgrim

The Pope doesn't agree.


672 posted on 03/31/2005 7:45:57 AM PST by atomicpossum (Replies should be as pedantic as possible. I love that so much.)
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To: AZConcervative

Agreed! Thank you.


673 posted on 03/31/2005 7:46:06 AM PST by klb1 (I stand with GWB)
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To: Choose Ye This Day
Thank you.................. that is good to know!

;-)

674 posted on 03/31/2005 7:46:10 AM PST by beyond the sea (Colonial Script........... or nationalize The Federal Bank..)
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To: Sam's Army
Very sad, although I thought it was their posterior on display...

That must explain the smell!

675 posted on 03/31/2005 7:46:12 AM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Ben Chad

You're welcome.


676 posted on 03/31/2005 7:46:14 AM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: Eurotwit

We must remember Terri Schiavo every time we enter the voting booth.


677 posted on 03/31/2005 7:46:17 AM PST by Taft in '52
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL

My thoughts and prayers are with Terri and her family. As for michael I hope he gets his very soon. What a heartless POS!


678 posted on 03/31/2005 7:46:21 AM PST by LYSandra
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To: petconservative

Wearing your Flameretardant suit or just a Glutton or maybe a....nevermind?

Not too smart a thing to say on this thread.

Oh well

RB


679 posted on 03/31/2005 7:46:24 AM PST by Rightly Biased (<><)
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To: gakrak
"And may her husband get everything he deserves." and that would be the Lake of Fire.

Where do bad folks go when they die.

They don't go to Heaven where the Angels fly.

Go to a Lake of Fire and fry.

See em' again til' the 4th of July.

I knew a lady who came from Duluth,

Bit by a dog with a rabid tooth,

She went to her grave just a little too soon,

Flew and laid down on the yellow moon.


680 posted on 03/31/2005 7:46:29 AM PST by Bluegrass Conservative
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