Judge Greer Having fun with The Department of Children and Families in Terri Schiavo Case!

Notice of Filing Case No. 2D05-1455 (3/24/2005) ^

[Harry Jones]

After hearing 1egal argument and being duly advised in the premises, the Court ruled that the executive and judjcial branches of government are separate but equal and that the executive branch is not superior in the area of judicial matters.

Page3 From Judge Greer's Order against Fla Dept Family Services!

http://www.dcf.state.fl.us/news/noticeoffiling.pdf

[WilliamofCarmichael]

RE: " I do not think Jeb can break the law without creating a gaping hole in the fabric of our Constitution"

Yes, the Rats and their MSM would go into a frenzy unlike anything I've seem since the Watergate press frenzy.

But why would the governor be "breaking the law." What law? What makes judges' interpretation "the law" vis-a-vis an executive's constitutional responsibilities and our checks and balances?

I do not know Florida's constitution or laws but I heard a Florida official tell a reporter and the governor that the governor had the authority to act.

Judges' decisions are overturned all the time within the judiciary and, as pointed out above in #101, by presidents and governors.

Let's get the "constitutional crisis" over with.

IMO, any "gaping hole in the fabric of our Constitution" is there because the executive and the legislative branches defer to inferior courts and fail to fulfill their responsibilities. The Congress "ordains and establishes" the federal inferior courts.

If the issue makes it above the inferior courts let the executive and the legislative branches remind the Supreme Court of checks and balances as the court does its work.

[McGavin999]

You just keep on believing that. The sad thing is, this may mark a real turning point for the Democrats--the moment when the base of the Republican party realized that the GOP is not interested in fighting for pro-life issues. Our base is currently demoralized, cynical, and angry.

Our base is not that dumb. There may be a very small and vocal minority who would be swayed so easily, but our base is basically comprised of good solid Christians with a strong law and order streak. They will not judge the GOP on this and let the democrats, as you say The Party of Death, win just to spite them. Most good Christians are up for the fight we are going to have as a result of this day and most will not be dumb enough to take it out on those on our side who will lead the fight.

[Regulator]

but once Terri is dead, he has no further constitutional authority to deny the State of Florida the right of inquiry into the circumstances preceding his order to terminate her lif

After reading Cracker Judge's stupid, misspelled vacation of the automatic stay I would have to say he will almost certainly assert that he owns the body even in death. He clearly thinks he is the grandest of all judges, and whatever he declares to be his domain, why, it's his. And he will issue a court order declaring all the world to be his.

[Harry Jones]

I heard a Florida official tell a reporter and the governor that the governor had the authority to act.

see the authority at post108 above

[Brytani]

John Kasich was sitting in for O'Reilly last night and interviewed a lawyer (do not recall his name)who happens to be a personal friend of Greer's. During the interview he stated that Greer had been asked to leave his Baptist Church over this case.

According to the friend, Greer and his family were devastated by this.

[Harry Jones]

look at what the judges said about the Government Reform Comm Supeana

With all due respect to the Committee, it has cited no law that convinces us that it has the power to overrule a state court final judgment or that this court has either the jurisdiction or obligation to stay a final judgment based upon its issuance of a subpoena. Accordingly, the motion is denied.

http://www.2dca.org/schiavo/0318order.pdf

[Antoninus]

that's just what they're counting on - to make hay out of this

If you don't want the democrats to make hay, don't hand them a pitchfork. As it is, Jeb has handed them a T-1000 super-deluxe auto-baler.

[Antoninus]

Our base is not that dumb. There may be a very small and vocal minority who would be swayed so easily, but our base is basically comprised of good solid Christians with a strong law and order streak. They will not judge the GOP on this and let the democrats, as you say The Party of Death, win just to spite them.

No, they're not dumb. And they certainly recognize a pathetic lack of leadership from a party they handed control of Congress and the Presidency to. The GOP has bungled one Culture of Life issue after another over the past couple years. Eventually, the cultural conservatives will start looking for other options. They can't be expected to put party loyalty ahead of principle forever.

Most good Christians are up for the fight we are going to have as a result of this day and most will not be dumb enough to take it out on those on our side who will lead the fight.

I see few real leaders in the GOP. This week has demonstrated to me, much to my chagrin, that the Bush's just aren't all that interested.

[Regulator]

Accordingly, the motion is denied

The key phrase. Just say we don't agree, and then deny it.

Oh, but, whenever you need a law to justify what you're doing, immediately produce one and interpret it however you want.

[dinok]

"Greer called the Bush bluff and won...the Bush brothers showed what their spine is made off...and the nation is worse off than if they had done nothing."

"You know, I am beginning to agree with that statement. Both gave hope to the parents that they would save their daughter from a state mandated execution, and both failed miserably........"

You don't know how much I wish I was wrong...this week has been one of the worse. I grieve for Terri, her family and our nation. This court sanctioned murder is another shameful chapter for us.

[applpie]

You arent right. They did do something. Each some pretty extraordinary ones but unfortunately the guys who had to deliver the final result...blinked first.

[maryz]

Can't the State AG file an injunction to take possession of the body for autopsy??

Assuming he wanted to (and isn't it the AG there are other questions about?), wouldn't Greer just blow it off, the way he did the congressional subpoenas (another sore topic to me!)?

[maryz]

Why do you think they would do an autopsy?

I read on FR that an autopsy is required by FL law before any cremation -- which makes sense. A buried body can be exhumed if questions arise later.

[varon]

.........and have a backup plan in the event Greer tries to obstruct them.

Their backup plan should consist of armed state agents that are willing to draw their weapons unlike the ones rumored to have been stared down by Barney Fife when on their way to seize Terri for the tube reinsertion.

What in the hell are they carrying the side arms for if they aren't willing to use them? It's like a firefighter unrolling the hose but doesn't have the guts to turn on the water.

[varon]

This is why the DCF needs to think and plan ahead.

They can think and plan all they want but they have already acquiesced their authority to Greer and will turn to him for permission for anything involving Terri even in matters where Florida law gives them authority as it did to seize her and have the tube reinserted.

[AmishDude]

Of the names I recognize, they're all long-term anti-Bushies.

[Diva Betsy Ross]

I have no problem with that statement. May what comes around ~ go around.

[Diva Betsy Ross]

I have no problem with that statement. May what comes around ~ go around.

[maine-iac7]

If you don't want the democrats to make hay, don't hand them a pitchfork

must admit I don't understand the statement - grew up on a farm, had pitchforks and had hay - but never saw a pitchfork make hay ;o)

[Dog Gone]

the Court ruled that the executive and judicial branches of government are separate but equal and that the executive branch is not superior in the area of judicial matters.

Okay, maybe I'm mentally retarded, but what is controversial about that?