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Refusal to give gun permits may end
St. Louis Post-Dispatch ^ | March 25, 2005 | Clay Barbour

Posted on 03/25/2005 9:50:16 AM PST by Graybeard58

The blast from the 38 mm handgun produced a surprisingly strong kick, one that caused Audrey Sementilli to shake her head as she placed the pistol back on the counter in front of her.

"I didn't like that one," said the retired teacher. "I'll stick with my Glock."

Sementilli was one of eight St. Louis County residents taking part in a gun safety course Saturday. The eight-hour class, which started in the Florissant branch of the St. Louis County Library and ended at the Piasa Rifle and Pistol Club in Alton, covered everything from the laws of justified force to safety and basic marksmanship. At the end of the day, students were ready to apply for a state concealed-carry permit.

The problem is, fully a year after Missouri became one of 46 states to offer such permits, St. Louis and St. Louis County still refuse to issue them.

But this may soon come to an end. A bill pending in the Missouri Legislature would remove the financial roadblock used by local officials and force the city and county to fall in line with the rest of the state.

Statewide, about 16,000 background checks have been requested for applications for concealed-weapons permits. A Missouri permit costs $100 for three years and $50 to renew.

Last year, the city and the county decided against issuing the permits, saying the new law violated the Hancock Amendment, which prohibits unfunded mandates.

(Excerpt) Read more at stltoday.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: banglist; reallybighandgun
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To: sauropod

Get one from VA. They now issue non-resident permits. Also good in several other states and WV.


21 posted on 03/25/2005 10:17:47 AM PST by helper
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To: Lurker
I thought the same thing too; he probably thinks they're all measured in millimeters.
22 posted on 03/25/2005 10:22:06 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Hezbollah will disarm before we see Kerry sign his SF 180,)
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To: Graybeard58; Professional Engineer

I want one!

*chuckle*

Honestly, a 38mm would probably be based off the XM109.
Huge and heavy.
(But I still want one!)


23 posted on 03/25/2005 10:25:48 AM PST by Darksheare ("Indeed I have learned to walk, just not THIS form of walking!" -Darksheare don't dance.)
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To: Graybeard58

"The blast from the 38 mm handgun produced a surprisingly strong kick,"

Wow! I'd never try to handhold a 38mm handgun. Maybe a 20mm, but never a 38mm.


24 posted on 03/25/2005 10:26:50 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Lurker

The ignorance of the media about firearms is deep and intentional.


25 posted on 03/25/2005 10:29:07 AM PST by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: Graybeard58
Me thinks old Clay should be made aware of his little boo-boo
E-mail: cbarbour@post-dispatch.com

I'm sure he'll appreciate it.

Behave now - no mocking him :-)

26 posted on 03/25/2005 10:29:32 AM PST by Condor51 (Leftists are moral and intellectual parasites - Standing Wolf)
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To: Graybeard58

Good. In the interim, those folks living in those urban cesspools should consider getting a non-resident "permit" from a state that is recognized in Missouri, like Florida.


27 posted on 03/25/2005 10:38:57 AM PST by Mulder (“The spirit of resistance is so valuable, that I wish it to be always kept alive" Thomas Jefferson)
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To: G32

Me too!


28 posted on 03/25/2005 10:41:57 AM PST by mr_hammer
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To: Mulder

I, for one, would not want to try to shoot a 38 mm handgun. Where do these reporters dig up this stuff? Don't they ever check facts or find out what they are writing about before they put in on paper? Stupid question I guess!


29 posted on 03/25/2005 10:44:09 AM PST by calex59
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To: Graybeard58
"The blast from the 38 mm handgun produced a surprisingly strong kick."

Awesome.

There's about 24mm to the inch, so that would be a 158 caliber firearm, with a projectile about 3 times the diameter of a .50 caliber.

Cripes, I can't even stand to fire a .454.
30 posted on 03/25/2005 10:44:38 AM PST by Fido969
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To: Condor51
The reporters usually blow that criticism off, unless you cc a copy to the editor. Then they feel obligated to respond.
31 posted on 03/25/2005 10:48:09 AM PST by Fido969
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To: Lurker

"I'll bet a 38mm handgun packs a hell of a kick. I'm certain this ignorant reporter meant a .38 caliber handgun."

That's exactly why I can't give articles like this any credence. They are either calling a shotgun a rifle or describing 38mm handguns. Not only does the dorky reporter not know what he is writing about, he can't do math.


32 posted on 03/25/2005 10:49:42 AM PST by L98Fiero
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To: G32
"Good lord, 38mm. I want one! ;)"



Schermuly 38mm Signalling Pistol
33 posted on 03/25/2005 10:56:48 AM PST by mondonico (Peace through Superior Firepower)
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To: Lurker
I'll bet a 38mm handgun packs a hell of a kick

Heck yeah...but with that necked down 105 brass it'll shoot flat to the horizon and beyond...I down load the charge with black powder for some cowboy action shooting though...hehehehehhee:>)

34 posted on 03/25/2005 11:04:16 AM PST by Covenantor
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To: Covenantor

And I thought my .50 BMG derringer kicked bad.


35 posted on 03/25/2005 11:21:18 AM PST by BadAndy (Specializing in unnecessarily harsh comments.)
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To: Graybeard58
38 mm handgun

LOL

36 posted on 03/25/2005 11:23:18 AM PST by B Knotts
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To: Covenantor

Notice it's not a "38 mm", but ".38 mm" handgun - as in, 1/3 of a mm. Wouldn't that be awfully small????


37 posted on 03/25/2005 11:25:39 AM PST by gieriscm
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To: G32
"Good lord, 38mm. I want one! ;)"
Prepare for a very serious recoil against your wallet. 38mm ammo is not going to come cheap, even if you reload.
38 posted on 03/25/2005 11:29:23 AM PST by GSlob
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To: Graybeard58

In their smug elite coverage of the right to keep and bear arms (which is to never cover the issue favorably), this Post reporter blindly steps in a big pile of excrement, for a "38 mm" weapon would be a destructive device, long since strictly reguluated by the feds and a felony to possess. He must really mean a 38 *caliber* handgun.

That not the only mistake in this article. The second being that since the one year old Missouri law recognizes permits issued by any other states, literally thousands of Missourians are not getting a Missouri permit at all-- they are getting Florida permits, which cost less and are issued for 5 years instead of Missouri's 3 years.

I hate to bring this news to the Post. They probably think that St. Louis is one big gun-free zone, which just proves how successful concealed carry is and distictly disproves the predictions this law would cause blood in the streets, predictions the Post found it so easy to run during the
law's debate.

We are north of 15,000 permits issued and not a single reported violation of the law in a year.


39 posted on 03/25/2005 11:30:00 AM PST by ewin
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To: gieriscm
Notice it's not a "38 mm", but ".38 mm" handgun - as in, 1/3 of a mm. Wouldn't that be awfully small????

Hmmmm...I didn't go to the source article...must be one of them furrin needle guns I heard about. I think I'll stick to my 38-105 rounds ;>)

40 posted on 03/25/2005 11:30:23 AM PST by Covenantor
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