Posted on 03/24/2005 9:58:45 AM PST by SmithL
I'VE HEARD the clamor as to why Terri Schiavo must die. No one, it is said, would want to live like her. Her parents, Robert and Mary Schindler, are religious fanatics. Many of her so-called supporters are "pro-life" zealots. Evil GOP geniuses passed a special law to help her live. And so, she must die.
I've followed this poignant case for two years. Also, my husband served at one time as an unpaid informal adviser to the Schindlers. I've heard the arguments, and they often start with: No one would want to live like that.
After all, this case is supposed to be about Terri's "right to die," even though no one knows for sure that she wants to die. She never wrote a living will or other document asserting as much. A court decided that she would want to die, based on casual remarks she made to her husband, Michael Schiavo, and his brother and sister. She told them she would never want to be kept alive by machines.
I hate to insert facts here, but it is a fact that a feeding tube is not a machine. Yet somehow the courts found that those casual comments have the force of a legal document -- and apply to a feeding tube, when they were meant for a respirator.
In so ruling, a judge also ignored claims made by Michael Schiavo when he sued the hospital that first treated Terri in 1990 for $16 million for failing to detect her potassium imbalance. As Newsday reported in 2003, he won $300, 000 for himself for loss of consortium and $700,000 for his wife -- based on the presumption that Michael would care for Terri for the rest of her life.
(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...
Oh, yes! See this blog:
NO, JUST GET A DIVORCE!
If you consider booze a foster child, Kennedy has no equal.
What a heartless thing to say.
I thought you might answer the question... I guess not. I pray your caretakers have more compassion for you if you are ever in the same condition.
Terri ping! If anyone would like to be added to or removed from my Terri ping list, please let me know by FReepmail!
Yes, Terri is the only person that I have ever heard of who is being executed for being "unyoked together" with a nonbeliever.
Ha, the Republicans are in the process of screwing themselves for the 2008 election. But, it's people like yourself who looooove to blame the "religious fanatics."
I called Governor Bush. So what's next?
The Republican Party phone # is 202-863-8500.
Now I'm focusing on President Bush. I told the Republican Party (answering machine) I've been a member of the Republican Party for only a couple of years, and I'm not impressed. I told him President Bush should use his executive powers and put Terri in protective custody, or pardon her for the "crime" of inconvenience.
I told them I would not contribute $$ to them any more.
Sure you can...then write a book and sell the movie rights...BIG bucks
Who cares what those people think? They aren't Terri and they don't know what she is thinking because they aren't "in her shoes." The people saying that are not Terri, whose wishes the court (supposedly) tried to discern [though Greer never even looked at Terri in real life]
How can people like George Felos, who say Terri cannot feel anything or think anything say that they know that Terri is unhappy she is alive?
How can Michael, who says Terri has been dead for 15 years, say that Terri is unhappy to be alive?
I guess with all the loonies weighing in lately, I should include a /sarcasm tag, so everybody knows I'm not one of those people who really believes this.
Some were afraid of Michael. Some were afraid to lose their jobs.
History is filled with cases in which people took action later than they should have.
Not counting concubines, of course.
Terri's right to die is sacred, whether it's her wish or not. Everybody has the right to die, so why can't we just kill whoever we want? All we have to say is that it's what they wanted. We don't need any proof. Our statement is sufficient. They have to be terminal, or have PVS, but as long we say they are, we don't need any proof of that either. I haven't heard anything recently about that couple that starved their foster kids in Florida, then ran off to Alabama. Last I heard, they were extradited back to Florida. I don't think they'll be prosecuted, because starving someone to death in Florida is legal. To say otherwise is a violation of state rights.
It looks like it from the Pinellas Park crime scene here.
The Republicans in the Florida Legislature yesterday had the chance to save Terri from murder and their vote was to let her be murdered. Blood will be on their hands if she dies. It is a disgrace. Please note my post #2453 on the latest thread 5
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See post above, here is what I posted:
Pinellas Park UPDATE!
From the Democratic Peoples' Republic of Greer
Here is another drive-by from the crime scene: I got back from a trip to the palace of King Greer. I went with Rev. Pat Mahoney and some others. Not only could our blind justice give the only verdict he knows, but he rewrote the Constitution just for our party.
Pat and four others got through with the Sheriff's permission and the police force cooperating. They were on public property outside the chambers and were silent, well behaved and, heaven forbid, were intending only to pray to themselves. Besides it was only the five, not a crowd, nor even a bother. Their presence was too much for his highness, though so they were forced out of the public area by security forces. Pat Mahoney is filing suit for violation of civil rights, first amendment, for if it happened in the old days it would have been a world shaking outrage. At least that is what it might have been if we had a Constitution that King Greer would honor. When a Governor of a state has to go to a minor tyrant like this guy for permission to enforce the laws, and when his crony in crime in Tampa, The Honorable Wittmore can sniff huffily at the congress and Senate and President, and the will of the people and petulantly delay and say no, we all know where we stand. It is not much of an argument here on scene, it is in our faces. The judges rule us all and write whatever laws they need to fit their partners in crime.
Wow, I am writing long sentences, it being the heat and humidity, I guess. We are being watched by the police elements who hearken to the whims of this little blind creature. Some of us have been harassed, or at least mysteriously put on notice. Here is my own example. I was parked far away, in a supermarket parking garage, nothing unusual. At a time of light traffic I left the area to go to church. Pulling out on the almost empty intersection, I drove south at moderate speed. Almost immediately, two gendermes on motorcycles spun out sirens blaring and lights flashing, coming up on both sides and screaming at me to pull over. They had me pull into a side street and then kept me held in my car for half an hour while they investigated my vehicle.
Finally, they found my Maine registration tag had expired, issued me a ticket, and let me go. I will tell you all, the men in black uniforms guarding Terri so she can die safely are formidable indeed and are volunteers. Some wear jackboot type wear and have the look reminiscent of movies of Nazi Germany, some are nice. I think Eternal Vigilance will confirm one who looks particularly ominous.
I saw that one yesterday in action. Regardless of lies to the contrary, the Schindlers are humble, warm people, all, and powerfully faithful Christians, Catholic. They are humble and gracious. Yesterday, Mr. Schindler walked up the walkway to visit his dying and agonizing daughter. Officer Jackboot, his buzz blond hair glaring in the sun contrasting with his movie set sunglasses folded his arms and blocked poor Mr. Schindler right there.
I can go on for hours and write enough to fill volumes on the gross inequites visited on us hourly here. We are staying well behaved, even though I almost wrapped a beach umbrella around....well that is another story. I didn't and we prayed instead.
This is the first chance in ages to post and I am so far behind in all that is happening that I get overtaken by events.
But I will say this: These runaway judges, so obvious, so arrogant, so egregious in their flouting of the law are trumping the other branches of government and are invoking a coup d'etat on this new State of Greer and of America. When a governor has to ask permission of a lowly judge for permission to obey the existing statutes or to go to the bathroom, our presumed system of elected government is usurped. Spiritually, the Schindlers are in fine hands with Father Tad, (or Msgr.) Father is an older, and energetic Holy priest who was ordained 58 years ago, and was Chief of Chaplains for our armed forces. He is humble as one would hope, and exhudes confidence, a comfort to fellow Catholics who may read this. I say this to emphasize my own comments are not radical and sunburn crazed, but are mainstream in the thoughts of most people here.
Even some of the media, and even CNN!!! are softening, shocked at what they witness. I guess the reports they generate are edited though by more unfriendly types further from the crime scene.
Governor Bush now has one chance at redemption, paralleling exactly the events of Jesus a couple thousand years ago. Another Mary, Mary Schindler is suffering as Mary, the mother of Jesus suffered during this time. On this Holy Week, he is in the seat of Pontius Pilate and is capable of acting heroically now, or of washing his hands. I am not optomistic of the former anymore, but pray I am wrong. It is not much exaggeration from this view to see our real live experience as a sequal to "The Passion".
The Pinellas Park crime scene is not so ominous as it might sound because of all the good people outraged, stunned, and praying there. It is just a few dark spots and stains here and there like the Schiavo, Bushnell, Soros, Felos cabal that hovers from time to time in the shadows. Our unity of wishes and prayers for Terri keep them at bay.
Terri is starting to suffer horribly now. It is not the hunger but the agony she suffers from lack of moisture. Jesus did not have to suffer this agony and she is going on her seventh day, conscious and feeling the pain. The judge and the staff will not allow the slightest mercy. I will not post a lot of other stuff, since I do not have time to read all the posts and do not wish to add duplications and confusion to other stuff emanating from here. How much more of this outrage can we Americans take?
Obviously you know as much about the law as you know about morals. Murder is not legal or moral. Not even in Florida. I'd be more specific, but I don't want to go too fast for you. This has only been in your face for about a year and a half. In all that time, you haven't managed to learn anything about it. Now you jump in here complaining because we've all formed an opinion based on facts that are too complicated for you. We're taking up precious bandwidth that would be better spent on something important like "Sports Heroes on Strike." You know, something that you can follow. Maybe you should just stick to inane topics, and leave this topic to the grown ups.
Blood will be on their the hands of those who voted against her, if she dies.
Blood will not be on the hands of those who did the right thing.
Martin Luther King's Letter from Birmingham Jail:
"It was "illegal" to aid and comfort a Jew in Hitler's Germany."
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