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DCF Considers Removing Schiavo from Hospice by Force
Palm Beach Post ^ | 3.23.05 | Dara Kam

Posted on 03/23/2005 2:34:59 PM PST by gopwinsin04

State officials say they are considering removing Terri Schiavo from hospice, by force if necessary, despite numerous court orders upholding the removal of the artificial nutrition tube that has kept her alive for 15 years.

Lucy Hadl, secretary of the Department of Children and Families, said Wednesday morning that her staff is relying on a state law that gives the department the authority to intervene on behalf of a vulnerable adult who is 'suffering from abuse or neglect that presents a risk of death or serious physical injury.'

Hadl said that the DCF would have to file a petition in order to remove Schiavo, but that 'it doesn't mean we'd have to have judicial approval in advance of taking the action if we believed it met the threshold for doing it.'

Hadl said that seven years of court rulings backing Schiavo's husband Michael, in his contention that Terri Schiavo did not wish to be kept alive artificially would not stop the DCF from taking action.

'We're not compelled to look at prior judicial proceedings,' Hadl said.

What we are compelled to look at is the presenting circumstances and any allegiations of abuse and neglect that we have recieved. So we have to deal with those and fufill out statutory responsibility.'

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Florida
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To: kaylar

Sad thing though, she knows alot. I would be very careful if I was her. We know what wedding vows can do to you. She would have more rights if she stayed living with him.


201 posted on 03/23/2005 3:12:53 PM PST by Two-Bits (I AM HEARTSICK AND SOUL MAD!!!! DO NOT GET A DNR IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO BE PUT TO DEATH.)
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To: CyberAnt

Yes, I just heard that on Fox news radio, I think, top of the hour news report. It was GREER., I believe


202 posted on 03/23/2005 3:12:59 PM PST by MTMS
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To: Irontank
the balance of powers playing out...its a beautiful thing...I wish more legislatures and executives had the guts to say to the courts..."no...you're not the final word on every issue...we are co-equal, not subordinate branches"

I totally agree. The judicial branch has gone far too long with out any checks or balances.

203 posted on 03/23/2005 3:13:10 PM PST by EricT. (Join the Soylent Green Party...We recycle dead environmentalists.)
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To: Cboldt
And if filed by an attorney against a LEO exercising statutory powers, should result in Rule 11 sanctions.

As I said, Felos is just blustering and blowing smoke.

204 posted on 03/23/2005 3:13:36 PM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: Modernman

Rule of law is one thing, Rule of Judiciary is another.


205 posted on 03/23/2005 3:14:01 PM PST by Dead Dog
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To: xsmommy
The Lord takes people in HIS own time, he isn't the one taking terri, there are those that are PUSHING HER out of life.

The Lord took her 15 years ago.

206 posted on 03/23/2005 3:14:04 PM PST by Jimmyclyde (Dying ain't much of a living boy...)
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To: actionforterri; All
Add me to the list of those who condemn this troll(actionforterri).Calling for Mr. Schiavo's murder reveals the new(and banned) poster is likely a "cult of death" member.

I would be happy should Mr. Schiavo simply stop his cruelty and step aside in favor of her parents.

207 posted on 03/23/2005 3:14:17 PM PST by hoosierham
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To: who knows what evil?

After you got the 'mailbox full' message, were you forwarded to the operator?


208 posted on 03/23/2005 3:14:26 PM PST by ordinaryguy
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To: gopwinsin04

called and left a message in 2nd mail box, first one full.


209 posted on 03/23/2005 3:14:31 PM PST by DoubleOJanet
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To: ordinaryguy

I called the DCF and got recordings that mailboxes are all full, was transferred to an 'attendant' and got another full mail box recording. Never talked to a human.


211 posted on 03/23/2005 3:15:17 PM PST by MTMS
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To: adiaireton8
We should not base life-and-death decisions on "maybes".

That is why we have courts to settle disputes like this. This has been to court 23 times - and counting. The supreme court - twice!

Her doctors say she is a vegetable, the husband says she would not want to live like that. The courts - over and over again - have upheld this.

212 posted on 03/23/2005 3:15:20 PM PST by conserv13
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To: Jimmyclyde

then why is she breathing?


213 posted on 03/23/2005 3:15:57 PM PST by xsmommy
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To: T.Smith
I don't think you understand "rule of law". Rule of law does not mean that Nazi guards must obey their superiors and execute women and children in concentration camps. Rule of law does not mean that we must obey everything passed by Congress and signed by the President. Laws can be unjust on account of their failure to conform to natural law. In that case, non-conformity to the unjust law, and conformity to natural law, is still abiding by the "rule of law".

-A8

214 posted on 03/23/2005 3:16:02 PM PST by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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To: MTMS

Isn't it beautiful what tinpot dictators can do. GHOULAGG: "She's mine! She's mine! Nobody can take her away!" Re-elected to be true, but that in a heavily Scientologist community which is NOT kind to the disabled.


215 posted on 03/23/2005 3:16:06 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: conserv13
You have been so brain washed over the years to accept judicial tyranny that when an executive exercises his constitution power, YOU THINK IT ABNORMAL.
216 posted on 03/23/2005 3:16:21 PM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: EricT.

Congress should cut the budget of the 11th Circuit in half. You don't have to cut the salaries of the judges, just get rid of most of their support staff.


217 posted on 03/23/2005 3:16:39 PM PST by Edmund Burke
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To: Walkin Man

Well said. I wonder how many of these people so fired up about this are ignoring those in their lives who need attention, too.

I care about this woman, I support her life, but I am being really turned off by some of the comments I've read.


218 posted on 03/23/2005 3:16:43 PM PST by pa mom
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To: CedarDave
I believe the State Cops would prevail if it came to that. How it must turn the stomach's of the local cops to arrest children and prevent Terri's family from giving her even a drop of water.

I agree.

I rather doubt that the local cops who a "guarding" Terri are all that committed to seeing her die. More likely that at least some of them would be delighted to help load her into a rescue bus. Maybe help provide escort to the border, where Georgia can take over.

She can come to my house. Anytime.

219 posted on 03/23/2005 3:16:54 PM PST by The Other Harry
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To: conserv13
...out of her brain dead shell...

SHE'S NOT BRAIN DEAD!

220 posted on 03/23/2005 3:16:56 PM PST by Petronski (If 'Judge' Greer can kill Terri, who will be next?)
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