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Schiavo Appeal Has Been Filed
Fox News

Posted on 03/22/2005 6:13:43 AM PST by sonsofliberty2000

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: clausvonschiavo; deathocrats; dothewillofgod; euthanasia; godhelpus; goodforgopin06; governmentinstrusion; judicaltyranny; judicialcoup; medicalmurder; meninblack; parentsrights; politcalgain; schiavo; t4; terri; terrischiavo
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To: MineralMan

Other two witnesses - Michael's brother and sister-in-law or Michael's sister and brother-in law, can't remember which, but his relatives.


941 posted on 03/22/2005 10:43:16 AM PST by penowa
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To: Jotmo
Good point. But when the patient can't speak for herself, who has the right to make that decision. That's what this entire mess is about.

IIRC the parents asked for a guardianship hearing and Greer refused to set a date. If that is true, how could they have ever been given an opportunity to put on their case regarding his (Michael) continued "rights" to be making decisions on Terri's behalf? So much of this case doesn't seem to make any sense to me. What would it have hurt to have a guardianship hearing?

942 posted on 03/22/2005 10:43:41 AM PST by Green
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To: Libertina

I'm amazed that the left thinks this is no big deal. Life and death matters should be settled "in a family setting," but teenage girls don't need parental consent or even involvement.

Starving someone to death is not an issue, but putting panties on the heads of terrorists is a war crime.


943 posted on 03/22/2005 10:43:45 AM PST by gogeo (Often wrong but seldom in doubt.)
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To: Theodore R.

Statement from the Whitehouse.....

We have done all that we can. We hope the parents can get relief in the appeal process.

I'm hearing all the "experts" say the 11th won't overturn a federal judge. The Supremes have already said they don't want to be bothered.

I pray the angels are with Terri to give her comfort and ease her passage.


944 posted on 03/22/2005 10:44:41 AM PST by Jrabbit
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To: ContemptofCourt

I agree...however, taken in toto, there is/could be an underlying motive for the witenesses the shade the truth (I'm not talking conspiracy) They probably know that Michael is seeing/involved with another woman. They feel that it is better to let Terri go and for Michael to move on with his life. If the question was asked in a broad general way...."Have you ever heard Terri express an opinion about being on life support..." Once the lie is on the record..it's tough to go back and explain yourself. Now with all the media scrutiny, how do you put the genie back in the bottle.


945 posted on 03/22/2005 10:44:52 AM PST by offduty (spending WAY too much time here)
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To: Jotmo
But when the patient can't speak for herself, who has the right to make that decision. That's what this entire mess is about.

When the patient can't speak, the law looks for other evidence. Absent sufficient evidence of the patient's wishes, the law errs on the side of keeping the patient alive.

At least I think that's the side the law intends to err on. ANyway, I see this case as one that questions the very integrity of the finder of fact. In that light, it's pretty clear why the judicial system is circling the wagons.

946 posted on 03/22/2005 10:45:03 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Jennifer in Florida

You know, I have posted this before but I never really paid attention to this case until 2003 before they tried to kill her before.

I heard for years the same thing...comatose, brain dead, etc.

Then I saw the videos...then I got online to read affidavits and court filings.

I could not believe what I was reading. I was SICKENED! Anyone here who doubts any of the information, there is PLENTY of reading material while we wait for the 11th Circuit.

I suggest reading.

BTW...I also called CSPAN this morning. Among other things I stated that NO WAY would I ever allow my husband to have any say if I lived or died while he was living with another woman and having kids with her.

I left a message also on Whittemore's answering machine after the ruling telling him I was appalled that he didn't know what De Novo means, etc. and that if he starved his dog he would be in jail, etc.


947 posted on 03/22/2005 10:45:03 AM PST by atruelady (Life Support...the OTHER , other white meat.)
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To: nmh

Oh, for God's sake. I am so sorry. I will never forget what a murder factory Florida is. This has certainly been an education.


948 posted on 03/22/2005 10:45:13 AM PST by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys-Reagan and Bush)
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To: bvw

"Damnably arrogant of you, I think, to so demand."

How did I demand? I asked for a link and even said please. But, never mind.


949 posted on 03/22/2005 10:45:14 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Rutles4Ever

What is your rational for this attack?


950 posted on 03/22/2005 10:45:22 AM PST by Military family member (If pro is the opposite of con and con the opposite of pro, then the opposite of Progress is Congress)
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To: penowa

It was the first scenario.
More people with a possible 'vested' interest...


951 posted on 03/22/2005 10:45:35 AM PST by krunkygirl
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To: Types_with_Fist
We should be concerned that the judiciary considers us all to be alive by "artificial means," and that someone with "custody" of us on paper can decide to starve us to death.

I just finished my lunch and I have to confess that while eating it I didn't consider consuming the food and drink as anything "extraordinary" (although Wendy's food is quite tasty) or "artificial" (definitely not that). Taking in necessary nourishment is just something that living things do, and is characteristic of life. I learned that in 10th grade biology. And here all this time we should have been thinking of it as "artificial means" of preserving life. Geez, the wonders that can be had by the judicial twisting of language...

952 posted on 03/22/2005 10:46:23 AM PST by chimera
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To: Zechariah_8_13

Really???? I have time to change my mind to Colorado Springs.


Isn't Austin in Travis County? I just figured that would be a good place to start again because the job market looks good.


953 posted on 03/22/2005 10:46:34 AM PST by atruelady (Life Support...the OTHER , other white meat.)
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To: Theodore R.
The appellate courts looked at the evidence to determine if the evidence was sufficient to sustain the trial court's decision:

http://abstractappeal.com/schiavo/2dcaorder01-01.txt

http://abstractappeal.com/schiavo/2dcaorder07-01.txt

http://www.2dca.org/opinion/October%2017,%202001/2d01-3626.pdf

954 posted on 03/22/2005 10:47:01 AM PST by ContemptofCourt
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To: Cboldt; Jotmo
Greer found that Michael's testimony met the standard of clear and convincing evidence that Terri, when competnet, made a decision to never accept a feed tube to extend her life.

Feeding tubes were NOT considered "artificial life support" by law while Terri could communicate her wishes. At the time she could communicate her wishes, that would have been a FELONY. Michael Schaivo's attorney, Felos, campaigned with Senator King, to get FEEDING TUBES as a DEFINITITION of "artificial life support" AFTER Terri could no longer talk. Within the "withholding of nutrition and hydration" definition, the person MUST BE pronounced as PVS. This is why it's been so important to Felo and Schaivo and Greer to MAINTAIN that Terri is in PVS.

Greer also ordered that NO ONE gave provide food or water to Terri, "naturally," which is against the Florida Statutes.

955 posted on 03/22/2005 10:47:04 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: krunkygirl

Thanks. I'll see if I can run it down. I just asked in case you had that information.


956 posted on 03/22/2005 10:47:38 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Gritty

That's right. Section 2 deals with the procedures. It orders a trial de novo.


957 posted on 03/22/2005 10:48:03 AM PST by atruelady (Life Support...the OTHER , other white meat.)
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To: Jrabbit

Our Heavenly Father - We humbly ask in the Name of Jesus Christ that You save our little sister, Theresa Marie Schiavo, from this attempt on her life. Please protect Terri's organs from damage. Bless and comfort Terri's parents, brother and sister and all those who are looking to You for a miracle. Amen.


958 posted on 03/22/2005 10:48:18 AM PST by Saundra Duffy (Terri Schiavo is my hero!!!)
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To: Gritty

Great comment by Santorum, and he is right.

Now the Congress has to pay attention to the renegade judges because they are forced to.


959 posted on 03/22/2005 10:49:04 AM PST by atruelady (Life Support...the OTHER , other white meat.)
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To: Saundra Duffy

Amen, Saundra.
I have seen you do much good work on these threads over the last few days. Thank you.


960 posted on 03/22/2005 10:49:55 AM PST by krunkygirl
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