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Schiavo Appeal Has Been Filed
Fox News

Posted on 03/22/2005 6:13:43 AM PST by sonsofliberty2000

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: clausvonschiavo; deathocrats; dothewillofgod; euthanasia; godhelpus; goodforgopin06; governmentinstrusion; judicaltyranny; judicialcoup; medicalmurder; meninblack; parentsrights; politcalgain; schiavo; t4; terri; terrischiavo
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To: nimbysrule
I wish them luck should they wish to accomplish this in Scientology Central.

If I lived anywhere NEAR Pinellas Country I WOULD MOVE OUT OF THERE NOW!!!!!!!!!

861 posted on 03/22/2005 10:21:16 AM PST by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift my eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: Jotmo

If its the end of the argument why are you here?
"She wants to die of starvation and dehydration."--
CONJECTURE AND RUMOR!!!!
Hearsay works for him but not for others,is that the way it works in your alternative galaxy?


862 posted on 03/22/2005 10:21:26 AM PST by northernlightsII
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To: Diamond; bigeasy_70118
"But later he takes it away by grounding his conclusion on the prior extensive litigation of the case, and an obviously slanted characterization of the trial as one in which "many highly qualified physicians" testified "that no meaningful treatment was available":

If assuming the very issues in question to justify his conclusion is not prejudice, I don't know what is."





ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ON!

THIS JUDGE HAS COMMITTED REVERSIBLE ERROR!

IF THE 11TH CIRCUIT REFUSES TO ACKNOWLEDGE THIS, THE PRESIDENT SHOULD BE READY TO INTERVENE TO ENFORCE THIS LAW, AND SAVE TERRI'S LIFE!



U.S. CONSTITUTION, ARTICLE II, section 3:

"He (the president) shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed.."
863 posted on 03/22/2005 10:21:42 AM PST by Deo volente (God willing, Terri Schiavo will live.)
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To: chimera

Yes you are being silly, Your examples of ancient times and primitive cultures have no bearing on this situation. If you can't see the difference, I'm not going to explain it to you.


864 posted on 03/22/2005 10:21:48 AM PST by Jotmo ("Voon", said the mattress.)
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To: MineralMan
Link? You could look it up yourself. Damnably arrogant of you, I think, to so demand.

Yet here: Schiavo, Micheal the mock Archangel of Death, he says he melted the rings and had the gold used to make a ring for himself, iirc, with the stone from her ring remounted.

To be kind to him at the time he did it, if it was early on -- it might have been a way of keeping her memory near.

865 posted on 03/22/2005 10:22:07 AM PST by bvw
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To: atruelady

I sure hope your right. Rush just said he doesn't think they will. Let's pray he is WRONG on this one!!!!!!What makes you think the 11th court will ,atruelady?


866 posted on 03/22/2005 10:22:10 AM PST by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift my eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: Jotmo
Unless the courts can find reason to remove his legal rights, he is in charge.

His obligation is to have TERRI's wishes followed, not his own. That is, he is not "in charge" in the sense that he is free to assert his wishes in place of hers. Greer found that Michael's testimony met the standard of clear and convincing evidence that Terri, when competnet, made a decision to never accept a feed tube to extend her life.

867 posted on 03/22/2005 10:22:12 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Jotmo

And I understand that. But this is assuming, which I am sure you are, a good husband with no evil intent. We can't say the same about MS.


868 posted on 03/22/2005 10:22:39 AM PST by conservativebabe
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To: Military family member

The fault rests with those that want to starve a human being to death. All the flowery words and legalese don't change that fact. Pure compassion should afford this woman a chance to test this new laws constitunality (is that a word?) Restoring her feeding tube is a no brainer.


869 posted on 03/22/2005 10:22:39 AM PST by Jrabbit
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To: AZConcervative

NO


870 posted on 03/22/2005 10:23:12 AM PST by Jrabbit
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To: Jotmo

Saving an innocent person's life is not a Federal matter? I believe Christ would beg to differ.


871 posted on 03/22/2005 10:23:15 AM PST by AZConcervative
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To: atruelady

"I know the 11th Circuit will come through. "

I hope so. Has anybody heard or does anybody even know how she is doing? I know she went six days without water before, and it's been five already this time. I wish there was something we could do!


872 posted on 03/22/2005 10:23:19 AM PST by Jennifer in Florida
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To: Cboldt
His obligation is to have TERRI's wishes followed, not his own. That is, he is not "in charge" in the sense that he is free to assert his wishes in place of hers.

He SLIPPED yesterday on nation TV and said " he doesn't know WHAT TERRI'S wishes are but these are HIS WISHES." I heard someone has the transcipts of that too.

873 posted on 03/22/2005 10:23:42 AM PST by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift my eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: ContraryMary
And Congress could not have gotten passed the law as intended because it is so blatantly a power grab. They had to at least couch it in reasonable terms, but by using those reasonable terms they watered it down.

Agreed. I thought it was cleverly worded, but maybe Congress was too cute by half.

874 posted on 03/22/2005 10:23:50 AM PST by bigeasy_70118
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To: Jennifer in Florida

It's amazing the will to live this girl has who "wanted to die".


875 posted on 03/22/2005 10:24:30 AM PST by conservativebabe
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To: Magnum44
I sure would appreciate someone explaining in laymans terms how this is 1) legally, being permitted, considering the public information that is out there includes no living will on Terri's behalf, and 2) morally being tolerated by a medical profession sworn to the hippocratic oath.

If the judges are making the legally correct decision, explain it to us.

Now explain how a judge can subjectively come to a decision that deprives the God given right to life of an individual based on the facts in this case. Is that a clear enough question for you?

At first I thought that you had an open mind and were seriously looking for an explanation. However, it is clear that you want me to tell you that the judge's decision was wrong.

I cited to you the first appellate decision which reviewed the trial court's decision, which you poo-poo'd as "legalistic crap."

Due to the dispute in this case, the judge was appointed the party to make the decision. Five doctors presented testimony. Based upon that testimony, he came to a conclusion as to Terri's medical state.

In addition, three witnesses testified that Terri did not want to live in a vegatative state.

All of the opinions in this matter on on the web in various places. This case has been reviewed and re-reviewed, and all of the parent's "new" evidence has been vetted....and if you still don't like me answer, then we can agree to disagree.

876 posted on 03/22/2005 10:24:32 AM PST by ContemptofCourt
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To: ContemptofCourt

Only one judge reviewed the facts: Green. The other ones only reviewed the PROCEDURE.


877 posted on 03/22/2005 10:24:41 AM PST by angelanddevil2
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To: atruelady; Everybody

This is my last post - I must go do some of my "day job" work! Thanks, everyone, as always, for great arguments and interaction.

BTW, most of my experience is as a criminal trial and appellate lawyer. And I've seen people convicted and the convictions affirmed all the way up the ladder(s) on far flimsier evidence than I see against that POS Schiavo thing already.


878 posted on 03/22/2005 10:24:46 AM PST by nimbysrule
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To: 7.62 x 51mm

Look what one of the potential buyers of Terri's feeding tube asked:

"Can you authenticate that this is Terri's actual tube? I want to use it to make a bong to be used in the final round of the Cannabis Cup in Amsterdam, I think it would generate a lot of publicity."

Revolting.


879 posted on 03/22/2005 10:25:03 AM PST by proud American in Canada
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To: Diamond

Glad to see someone else actually read the opinion. The reasoning is circular. His conclusion assumes that if he were to try the case he would concluded what had already been concluded. Minimal due process requires that he actually try the case. This is not an appeal but a new proceding.


880 posted on 03/22/2005 10:25:22 AM PST by AndyJackson
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