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Schiavo Appeal Has Been Filed
Fox News

Posted on 03/22/2005 6:13:43 AM PST by sonsofliberty2000

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: clausvonschiavo; deathocrats; dothewillofgod; euthanasia; godhelpus; goodforgopin06; governmentinstrusion; judicaltyranny; judicialcoup; medicalmurder; meninblack; parentsrights; politcalgain; schiavo; t4; terri; terrischiavo
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To: Jennifer in Florida

I know. I live in Bradenton, and I have been educating people around here who haven't really paid attention.


901 posted on 03/22/2005 10:30:42 AM PST by atruelady (Life Support...the OTHER , other white meat.)
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To: Cboldt
Keep in sharp focus that this is about TERRI's wishes. In that regard, Michael is only the holder of evidence that may or may not represent TERRI's wishes.

Wrong.

902 posted on 03/22/2005 10:30:56 AM PST by ContemptofCourt
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To: conservativebabe
How many people have been in relationships with someone who started out as wonderful, but then turned out to be psychotic or something?

Then she should have left him, or started legal proceeding to do so. She didn't, and NO ONE can show she intended to.

She didn't give him the right to just do whatever the hell he wanted with her, just because they got married.

NO ONE veer said that. How many time do I have to say that. He doesn't have the legal right to "do whatever he wants to her". He DOES have the legal right to direct her medical treatment when she is unable to speak for herself. Up to and including removing any devices that keep her alive by other than ordinary means. This is not a hard distinction to make.

903 posted on 03/22/2005 10:31:06 AM PST by Jotmo ("Voon", said the mattress.)
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To: ContemptofCourt

the 3 witnesses were 3 Schiavos ,Michael,his brother and sister,who by the way also terminated their mother's life.


904 posted on 03/22/2005 10:31:07 AM PST by northernlightsII
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To: Jennifer in Florida

I am leaving here when the kids finish school in a couple months.

I don't want to be associated with Florida at all anymore.

I am ashamed to say I lived here.

On to Austin Texas. Wahoo!


905 posted on 03/22/2005 10:31:41 AM PST by atruelady (Life Support...the OTHER , other white meat.)
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To: ContemptofCourt

I believe that only Greer reviewed the "facts" of the case. All other courts stipulated to those "facts" as put forth in Greer's court.
There was much to support the Schindler family that was not allowed into evidence by Greer.
That is my understanding...


906 posted on 03/22/2005 10:32:09 AM PST by krunkygirl
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To: ContemptofCourt

"Due to the dispute in this case, the judge was appointed the party to make the decision."

This confuses me. A legal expert last night was saying that because the judge appointed himself as Terri's representative? in this case AND because he was at the same time the judge in this case, that this is a violation of Florida law. Is this true, and if so, why has this not raised questions about due process?


907 posted on 03/22/2005 10:32:34 AM PST by Texas Deb
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To: nimbysrule

MS -- the HINO -- is clearly not credible in MY court (if I had one... LOL)

The "keen legal mind" to whom I addressed my brief question states very early in the thread he is a trial lawyer - and that is the genesis of my question. Somehow that one item goes to the whole heart of this case, and it seems to me that anything he has advocated or stated about Terri is wrong to admit as evidence. The fact that Judge Greer has not struck all such evidence, and never sought independent advice and fresh, modern testing on Terri's behalf leads me to believe he is not viewing this case with dispassion, and has become too strongly invested in her death by now to hear this case.

I honestly don't know what the outcome of such testing would be, but it seems very wrong to disallow it in the face of all the suggestive testimony that the other side has brought to the table, but that he has repeatedly struck. A new judge is needed - to save Greer from a place he has gotten himself into that he really can't budge from now.

The funny thing is, that if HINO's supporters REALLY wanted THE COUP in this case, that they ought to graciously allow Terri's parents to take custody -- banking on their absolute faith that she'll always be a vegetable in decline -- and wait for the day the parents themselves ask the court for the right to end her life. Then they'll really be able to say, "we told you so".


908 posted on 03/22/2005 10:32:58 AM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: proud American in Canada

It is obviously a hoax, and if it bothers you, don't look.


909 posted on 03/22/2005 10:33:14 AM PST by Military family member (If pro is the opposite of con and con the opposite of pro, then the opposite of Progress is Congress)
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To: ContemptofCourt
You make a compelling argument. It can be summed up in one sentence:

"Vee ver only vollowing orders!"

910 posted on 03/22/2005 10:33:49 AM PST by Rutles4Ever (Warning: may eat own)
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To: nimbysrule

Have a great day...pray for Terri...have faith!!!!


911 posted on 03/22/2005 10:33:50 AM PST by atruelady (Life Support...the OTHER , other white meat.)
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To: pollywog
He SLIPPED yesterday on nation TV and said " he doesn't know WHAT TERRI'S wishes are but these are HIS WISHES." I heard someone has the transcipts of that too.

I sort of followed the discussion of that, and if I understand correctly, Michales was mocking (repeating) what Terri's parents had said. The transcript doesn't illustrate that very well.

I just want to steer people to the fact that this is about Terri, and that Michael is "just another evidence witness." Sure, as husband he gets some benefit as an evidence witness, but he doesn't have (never did have) the right to substitute his desire for Terri's. Lot's of folks on this thread are talking as if the law has given Michael the right to determine Terri's wishes -- it hasn't. The law has concluded, based on evidence, that Terri's wish was to be starved to death.

Given the timing of Michael's recall, etc., I think the court is grossly mistaken on the factual determination.

912 posted on 03/22/2005 10:34:08 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: ContemptofCourt

You mean bend over for the faultless judges to maintain the "sanctity" of the judicial system in this country? Uh, no!


913 posted on 03/22/2005 10:34:12 AM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired...)
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To: All

Could someone explain to me the whole "19 judges have heard this and all agreed with Greer" thing?


914 posted on 03/22/2005 10:34:21 AM PST by cdefreese
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To: ContemptofCourt

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the only witnesses to Terri's "statement" are Michael, his sister-in-law and brother-in-law. There is no independent witness to the statement. Also, weren't these statements made at a funeral of a relative that had been on life support and were made in an off the cuff manner?


915 posted on 03/22/2005 10:34:28 AM PST by offduty (spending WAY too much time here)
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To: krunkygirl

Yes, Greer, sorry.


916 posted on 03/22/2005 10:34:53 AM PST by angelanddevil2
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To: blurb
I didn't know that in America getting married means selling yourself as chattel. Maybe it's time for me to move to Saudi Arabia.

Good argument. Well reasoned, factualy based. You should be proud. So glad you didn't have to resort to and homonym attacks like you would if you couldn't make your case...

917 posted on 03/22/2005 10:34:53 AM PST by Jotmo ("Voon", said the mattress.)
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To: Jotmo
>>>I understand your feelings, and they are valid. But you would be out of line in a case like this. You must look at it from my perspective. I made a promise to my wife. I will see it fulfilled. Period. Weather it hurts her parents or not<<<


I would think your wife has a living will and also has mentioned to her parents that she wishes to die if she can not longer be "productive".

Since there is no evidence Terry mentioned this to Michael or to her parents, and EVERYONE says she was very close to her parents, the courts should have ended his guardianship and allowed her parents to take over her care.
THEY WANT TO TAKE OVER HER CARE.

I am sorry, this dude is one controlling prick.
I mean, he would not even give Terry's cats to her parents to take care of as a memory of their daughter. Instead he had them put to sleep.

BTW..A husband WILL NEVER REPLACE THE LOVE AND BOND OF A MOTHER AND DAUGHTER.
I feel her mom knows Terry wants to live or else she would not be putting up this fight.
918 posted on 03/22/2005 10:35:11 AM PST by snarkytart
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To: Theodore R.

Doesn't Florida have an Insurance Bureau,they would want ti investigate fraud.


919 posted on 03/22/2005 10:35:36 AM PST by northernlightsII
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To: offduty

By ContemptofCourts logic, we should walk away from Roe v. Wade and the liberal activists on the Supreme Court while we're at it...


920 posted on 03/22/2005 10:35:42 AM PST by Rutles4Ever (Warning: may eat own)
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