Posted on 03/22/2005 6:13:43 AM PST by sonsofliberty2000
per Fox
Some things are more valuable and more important than obeying the laws of the state. Human life is one of them. If you are only looking at the this issue from the perspective of law, then you are not seeing the whole picture.
-A8
Our whole contention is that these findings are wrong both on their face and in their content. These findings have not been revisited by any court with a view of a new discovery process. Needless to say, what a judge says in his courtroom isn't neccessarily correct, which is what you are implying. Because if that were true, then no one in prison would be innocent. We know that to be false.
This is good....however, it is my understanding that Michael wouldn't allow any of the Schindlers Dr's to make a complete neurological evaluation of Terri. They had to rely on the tape because he wouldn't allow access
There are only two things that motivate people to go against their own moral values. That cause them to rationalize their own actions.
DESIRE FOR WEALTH, DESIRE FOR POWER.
Judge Greer's is a little of the first, mostly the second.
Everyone has a 'tell', everyone is their own worst enemy because they eventually 'say' something that reveals their agenda.
Judge Greer stated, "That woman is doing do die." This was in reference to the fact he had RULED to have her TORTURED TO DEATH, and as appeals were filed, and the MSM got involved (and us), his POWER was being challenged.
For him, it turned into a battle between HIS POWER, HIS RIGHT TO THAT POWER, and anyone that challenged it.
His whole career, his LIFETIME Appointment as a JUDGE is on the line right now, and he knows it. It is no longer about Terri, it is about GREER having his RULING STAND, no matter what.
Greer and FELOS have been 'buddies' for years and years. FELOS got 150 patients diagnosed as terminally ill so he could scam MEDICARE money. Those patients were later found to be NOT TERMINAL. The government has filed for a return of over $14 million. Felos has filed an appeal to delay it.
HOW MUCH DID GREER GET of that $14million?
I was listening to O'Reilly earlier, in the background, and O'Reilly was decidedly more let Terri live today than yesterday.
What findings are wrong? A trial was had and evidence heard as set forth by FL law.
A husband and wife saying something as a "precedent" to what?
Or you attempt to accept that God's will is being done, and use your faith in His will from which to draw comfort.
None of us know if God isn't using poor Terri, for some greater plan. We all know what OUR will is however, and it with that, that I struggle.
None of us know if God isn't using poor Terri, for some greater plan.
But most of us realize that Satin is using the HINO for a some greater plan!
The gentleman who runs Quackwatch is a psychiatrist (retired). There are many who consider psychiatry quackery in itself. So it would stand to reason that a quack is running Quackwatch.
Are you saying that a mother and daughter are NOT?
where the heck is the Dept. of Family Services?? Did they file that d@mn thingy that they were going to do an investigation and then say "that's all we will do?" They need to step in and protect her.
Thank you.How comw they are not acting more quickly and allowing IV hydration they are all heartless ghouls bent on causing pain and suffering on an impaired defenseless woman.
He wants to make them pay for how HARD they have made it for him to KILL their daughter.
This would be called 'impeachment' of a witness' testimony.
I just read of Michael's girlfriend's statement this morning and didn't hear of dates, etc. I have no idea when she first came forward with this information. I have not heard about what 'Terri's best friend' might have said. What was it?
Here is where I come out on this kind of thing. I trust lawyers to be self-interested in the interests of their case. Certainly, the parents' lawyers have not shown themselves to be 'shrinking violets.' They wouldn't wait for some poster on FR to point out how devastating (if true) such statements would be to the husband's case. So, they would have been greatly motivated to try to introduce such evidence and scream bloody murder to every appellate court if they were prevented.
So far as I can tell they did neither. I conclude from that, either (i) that the purported evidence wasn't available at the time of the trial, or (ii) was and it didn't pan out and they were afraid it would blow up in their face and didn't attempt to enter it. I cannot imagine that they offered it, it was excluded by Judge Greer and they never mentioned it on any appeal. Just wouldn't happen, in my view.
Finally, please keep in mind that, while many here have made something of a cottage industry of vilifying the husband, he wasn't all that much of a key figure in the trial court decision.
Finally, please keep in mind that, while many here have made something of a cottage industry of vilifying the husband, he wasn't all that much of a key figure in the trial court decision.
Reason enough for a new trial!
To be honest, I don't remember. The husband and wife have the same protection as doctor/patient. I'm not sure how it works, and that's why I brought this up. I am not sure if there is any extra weight given to Michael's statements. Didn't the Clintons cite something similar?
The ball has been royally dropped.
I can't beleive the neglect on part of Jeb.
Yes, I have not problem saying Jeb because he could have acted the first time the legislature passed Terri's law.
He had 1-1/2 years to get her out of there with DCF!
Haven't you ever been involved in a trial or rulings issued by a judge that you disagreed with and/or felt that certain issues that to you were "facts" of the case, but dismissed by the judge? Judges are not super-human and above making mistakes.
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