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Federal Hearing in Schiavo Case Over. No reinsertion order for Terri's feeding tube.
FOX News Channel ^

Posted on 03/21/2005 2:14:45 PM PST by sonsofliberty2000

Just on Fox: Judge going back to chambers to review plaintiff (parents) request for restraining order and tube reinserted.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: judgewhittemore; schiavo; terri; terrischiavo
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To: cyncooper
What's amazing about some hysterics around here

An innocent adult life is about to be snuffed out by the state. I don't believe "hysterics" is the word you were rooting around for.
281 posted on 03/21/2005 5:33:43 PM PST by farmer18th (Compromising with absurdity is absurdity)
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To: JonDavid
"If the Clinton judge rules against Terri, President Bush should issue an executive order or send in the Marines. Let the Dems try to impeach him.'

BUT YOU MISSED PART OF MY POINT! He doesn't have the "luxury" of waiting any longer for an order. The common sense assumption has got to be that this judge is not being helpful.
282 posted on 03/21/2005 5:34:57 PM PST by SolomoninSouthDakota (Daschle is gone.)
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To: peyton randolph
Ramesh Ponnuru's dissection

Quoting liberals as fact of Napolitano's inability is not necessarily a shining report. Fact is Napolitano is closer to the Old Right and the Framers than anyone has been at National Review in over 20 years

283 posted on 03/21/2005 5:35:07 PM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: All
Since the judge must know that time is of the essence, no order yet is not very promising.

I hope the family's lawyers are thinking ahead and have lined up the coroner to step in and prevent HINO from immediately destroying the evidence. In fact, wouldn't an inquest and potential autopsy give pause to some of the players involved that a misdiagnosis might be exposed rather than buried?

I'm not ready to give up hope and surely don't expect the parents to be thinking about this but the lawyers should be. Maybe if they can convince Michael that his day of reckoning will come sooner with Terri's death rather than later, he'd have a change of heart and decide that it was better if she lived a long, long time.

Just grasping at plan Z here.

284 posted on 03/21/2005 5:36:28 PM PST by NonValueAdded (It took the submedia to sink Kerry's campaign boat)
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To: farmer18th

Yes, it is exactly the word I want.


285 posted on 03/21/2005 5:37:44 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: billbears
Fact is Napolitano is closer to the Old Right and the Framers than anyone has been at National Review in over 20 years

Not a fact...just your opinion masquerading as fact. You're entitled to it. Doesn't mean it is correct.

286 posted on 03/21/2005 5:38:05 PM PST by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: cyncooper
Yes, it is exactly the word I want.

Let me talk to the nurses about your tube. You're not making any sense, dear.
287 posted on 03/21/2005 5:39:38 PM PST by farmer18th (Compromising with absurdity is absurdity)
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To: farmer18th

You've hit it. This is ALL about getting the euthanasia industry rolling.


288 posted on 03/21/2005 5:42:30 PM PST by JennysCool ("Only lie about the future." -Johnny Carson)
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To: housewife101

I don't know if he can use an executive order, but I wouldn't expect one. I am feeling worse the longer this goes on. Wonder if anyone has any idea how long this guy thinks he has got. Not a good sign that he hasn't ordered the tube back in yet.



President Bush should issue an executive order to save Terri if the Clinton Judge rules against Terri. Let the Democrats try to impeach him. Those who know that this is wrong can not "Wash" their “Hands”. Ironic that Terri is going through this during Holy Week. If Terri dies on Good Friday, I am afraid that this country is going to see God’s wrath in the near future.


289 posted on 03/21/2005 5:43:18 PM PST by JonDavid
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To: housewife101
This whole deal is another reason to grab control of the judiciary.......poor Teri is going to be collateral damage.
290 posted on 03/21/2005 5:45:25 PM PST by pointsal
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To: SolomoninSouthDakota

Your right.


291 posted on 03/21/2005 5:47:03 PM PST by JonDavid
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To: pointsal

Yes, sad...but true. It takes tragedy for our representatives to have the backbone to do anything.


292 posted on 03/21/2005 5:47:09 PM PST by housewife101
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To: Vis Numar

Can't see the connection between your quoting polls and my saying the "professional empaths" are MIA when it comes to saving Terri.


293 posted on 03/21/2005 5:48:56 PM PST by syriacus (Why ask for physician-assisted-suicide in OR, when you can save money by "peacefully" starving?)
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To: Sola Veritas

I would say you are "talking through your hat" when it comes to your knowledge of President Bush's actions here, but that that overstates how high to critique you by about half...


294 posted on 03/21/2005 5:49:52 PM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: farmer18th

I present exhibit A.

Do you think that post was thoughtful and mature, or do you concede it is tinged with hysteria.


295 posted on 03/21/2005 5:49:54 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: flaglady47

Your scenario doesn't get Judge Whittemore "off the hook" if the 11th Circuit issues a stay and tells him to go ahead and decide the merits -- then it's right back in his lap, with only a brief "respite." Only if he think they (and the Supremes) will also pass will it do that.


296 posted on 03/21/2005 5:50:44 PM PST by BohDaThone
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To: pointsal
This whole deal is another reason to grab control of the judiciary..

And what will be done with the judiciary, once it is grabbed?

297 posted on 03/21/2005 5:50:44 PM PST by syriacus (Why ask for physician-assisted-suicide in OR, when you can save money by "peacefully" starving?)
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To: cyncooper
The buck does not stop with him. He is not a king

Perhaps Truman knew something you don't: the judiciary branch was not meant to be a house of lords, or an uber-parliament, passing final judgement on the legistlative acts of the people. President Bush signed a law allowing the judiciary branch authority to review federal civil rights violations against people like Miss Schiavo. This Clinton appointee is obviously a political hack, blind to justice, as any "reasonable man" would understand that a temporary restraining order was necessary as early as 4:30 AM this morning. Since the judiciary has shown hostility to the civil rights of an American citizen, it is high time for the President--the people's supreme elected official--to discipline the judiciary and take custody of Terri while this judge can be impeached, or the case can be assigned to a sentient human being.
298 posted on 03/21/2005 5:50:53 PM PST by farmer18th (Compromising with absurdity is absurdity)
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To: followerofchrist

"I did talk to a nurse friend, and she said Terri's death will be painless."


Logically, one cannot say whether her starvation will be painless if there is not even a consensus among experts regarding her level of awareness, let alone if she is indeed in a PVS. Beyond that there isn't even a consensus about PVS itself. Definitions vary.

Also, this is what I wonder about concerning those in favor of starving Terri Schiavo: if you think her condition warrants mercy killing than why starvation? Why not something quicker like lethal injection? And why not have some backbone and say emphatically that you support the legalization of euthanasia?

Court sanctioned euthanasia is abominable; worse than that is starvation as the method.


299 posted on 03/21/2005 5:52:30 PM PST by macamadamia
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To: followerofchrist
I did talk to a nurse friend, and she said Terri's death will be painless.

No it will not. Have you ever been dehydrated? Ever seen what happens? Starved to death?

The body starts consuming the intestines when it can't get any food. It is very,very painful.

They can give Terri MORPHINE to kill the pain.

If she can FEEL PAIN, SHE IS NOT BRAINDEAD. SHE IS AWARE.

This is the what the whole issue revolves around, that she is NOT AWARE, PVS.

If she was, they would not have to give her MORPHINE to kill the pain.

Ask your nurse friend if she forgot to mention the painkillers.

300 posted on 03/21/2005 5:53:11 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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