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Posted on 03/20/2005 10:27:03 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida
Continuation of Terri Schiavo daily March threads. Due to overwhelming participation we reached over 5000 posts in three days time!
Don't worry, the judge knows she can hold out for another month or two. Afterall, he said she made it "six days" before.
Also, a PVS diagnosis isn't something that can be meaningfully judged by majority opinion. All a diagnosis of PVS means medically is that a doctor hasn't found any type of stimulus that could produce an observable cognitive response. A doctor who doesn't look very hard isn't apt to find anything that's not blindingly obvious. But if two doctors (or even one) finds congnitive responses to a stimulus the fact that some other doctors don't hardly proves those two wrong.
If a doctor who claims to have found a response is accused of 'wishful thinking', the proper protocol would seem to either have a disinterested person document the behavior if it's easily observable, or else use a double-blind protocol to validate it. The doctor seeking to disprove PVS should be allowed experiments to refine the protocol as needed.
Sample protocol: have a tape prepared with a random sequence of the words "relax" and "get tense", spoken in a uniform tone of voice and spaced at five second intervals. Record the patient's reactions on a polygraph with a mark at each five second interval, and on video with a light that likewise blinks. Have the doctor watch the video without sound and try to identify which words were "relax" and which ones were "get tense". If the patient is responding cognitively to the words, the doctor should be able to tell. If not, he'd have a hard time guessing above 50%.
Note that all of the 'interpretation' in this protocol is done by a doctor who wants to find the patient non-PVS, but no amount of wishful thinking would allow him to determine cognitive function when one exists.
okay......I thought so! : )
LOL!
The comment about his parents was on Larry King Live a while back and the fact that he had her cats killed and melted down her wedding rings was in the original malpractice suit transcript (depositions, I think). It's all here at FR in the archives - there was a monster thread back in August 2003 that dealt with many of these issues and has transcripts of court records, etc.
I think any clintoid judge would rule the same way: death to Terri.
"Too bad it wasn't a NATIONAL talk show!"
Maybe Dom will share the clip with his friend Sean. They are both on 1210.
I love to see evil people hang themselves.
This is the first I've heard of this as well, I'd like to see more of this, if anyone has another site.
I guess to understand anything here, ONE MUST BE A ROCKET SCIENTIST!!! : )
I just heard them say that the Judge would not have his decision rendered till tomorrow.
Well I dub you ExPatInUSA
The cats he killed according to a 1992 deposition. The parents he killed according to a 2003 Larry King Live interview in which he also described Terri's gynecological problems in indelicate detail.
I think the deposition is at terrisfight.com; the LKL interview is here.
Thanks Halls. I hope it's a decision to feed and hydrate her.
Right...but if you have ever read a court opinion you will notice that it is usually filled with tons of case law. That is research work and it takes time. I am not sticking up for him, but as I said no judge wants to be overturned on appeal. We can all speculate as to why this is taking so long, and it will drive us insane, but truth is only God and that Judge know. It all depends on what exactly he is researching and does it have something to do with the new bill?? You know how angry the libs are because of the bill and I am sure they are trying to find ways to say "it's unconstitutional"....I am to a point of just satying "rule" even if against, so the 11th can get it and it is out of florida for a change, though it may get remanded back to FL after that, but then it would be Terri's denovo case...which is what we really want. Of course quick insertion of the tube is needed first and foremost. But say right now if he ruled against Terri, they'd get the appeal in right away and that court would likely from what I am hearing, put that tube back in immediately....and maybe that would be better than waiting until who knows when and tyhen still get a "no' which puts Terri in even more danger.
TRUE: MICHAEL SCHAIVO HAD HIS PARENTS PUT TO DEATH, BY STARVATION.
I'm sure a FReeper will know someone who can post the docs....
Me to!
Judge Greer sided with THUGS!!!! That's who he believed!
Thank you for posting this, Nic. It is truly beautifully written.
No doubt I missed the part where he will allow her a few drops of water in the meantime?
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