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Mother pleads for Terri Schiavo's life (US House convenes at 1:00 PM EST - LIVE THREAD
Kansas City Star/AP ^ | 2/20/05 | Mitch Stacy

Posted on 03/20/2005 9:26:17 AM PST by Dane

Mother pleads for Terri Schiavo's life

MITCH STACY

Associated Press

PINELLAS PARK, Fla. - Hanging their hopes on a last-minute compromise in Congress, Terri Schiavo's parents notified her hospice to prepare to have her feeding tube reinserted on Sunday, her third day without food or water.

Congressional leaders from both parties hoped an agreement reached on a bill would allow the tube to be restored while federal courts review her case. The House and Senate were expected to take up the legislation by Sunday or early Monday. If passed, President Bush planned to sign it.

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But Mary Schindler pleaded for parents nationwide to call their congressional representatives and pressure them to vote for a bill to prolong her daughter's life.

"There are some congressmen that are trying to stop this bill," she said outside her daughter's hospice. "Please don't use my daughter's suffering for your own personal agenda."

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Rep. Robert Wexler, D-Fla., issued a statement late Saturday saying he will make an objection that would stop the vote Sunday. Any member can demand that a majority of members be present to do business. Rep. Earl Blumenauer, D-Ore., said he was trying to gather enough votes to defeat the bill Monday

(Excerpt) Read more at kansascity.com ...


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To: Theodore R.
"George W. Greer was elected by the people in 1992, 1998, and 2004, when he received 65 percent of the vote in the nonpartisan judicial election."

I wasn't aware of this, but I still think electing our Judges is far better than them being appointed for life. In Greer's case however, the good people of Florida are getting what they wanted. I don't know what can be done about that short of the Congress intervening to stop an obvious and gross injustice to Terri and her family.

Frankly I don't see this issue, (Congress trying to reverse a judge's decision), as being wrong or dangerous at all. It has enormous precedent when you consider that Governors and Presidents have reversed a great many judicial decisions through pardons. In fact, in many cases judges themselves have reversed or "set aside" the decisions of juries when they are obviously and blatantly wrong. But rest assured that Congress is acting because 'we the people' are demanding they do.

321 posted on 03/20/2005 11:42:03 AM PST by TheCrusader ("the frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" - Pope Urban II, 1097 A.D.)
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To: demlosers
Rep. Robert Wexler, D-Fla = Piece of S**t.

Someone should disconnect his tube!

322 posted on 03/20/2005 11:43:16 AM PST by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: exDemMom
Please believe me, I understand what you are saying. And you could be absolutely right in everything you just layed out, but....

I am argueing the exact opposite side of this. I don't want the Fed.s to have the right to overrule family and be forced to keep someone alive for their own purposes, be they benign or not.

That leaves the door open to organ farms, forced blood banking and any other biologically and morally abhorant behavior the Feds deem is "in the best interest" of society.

Not that this congress would do it, but it's the precident being set and the law being subverted.

323 posted on 03/20/2005 11:44:07 AM PST by MarketR ("We are pioneers of the world; the advance-guard, sent on through the wilderness of untried things")
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To: All

Ok, I'm confused... will there be any further hearings toDAY, or not until 12:01 AM?? TIA.


324 posted on 03/20/2005 11:44:51 AM PST by angelwings49 (Where are we going, and why am I in this handbasket??)
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To: All
If patriotism be the last refuge of a scoundrel, then a scoundrel name me. I would proudly be thought a scoundrel to my last day than a coward for one.
This schism must heal. We are all good people but conscience is a powerful thing. Perhaps Mrs. Schiavo would better serve our cause as a martyr than as a fire that divides us as sheep between a fire? It's time to work with our wits and regroup.
325 posted on 03/20/2005 11:45:18 AM PST by olde north church (F ptrtsm b th lst rfg f scndrl thn scndrl nm m. I wld prdl b thght scndrl 2 m lst dy thn cwrd 4 1)
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To: carl in alaska

$100 bucks say they let her die.


326 posted on 03/20/2005 11:48:09 AM PST by GregoryFul (Liberals are pathological liars. They admire liars, they regale in lies, they spread lies.)
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To: rmgatto

Cerebral Cortex:
Frontal Lobe/Consciousness
Response to environment
judgement
emotional response
word meanings
motor activities
When you lose this funtion you have a loss of movement, inability to plan complex activites such as making coffee, loss of sponteneity, loss of simple movements of body parts

I am as informed as the rest of you. While reading about the case in various media, this was a pretty consistent determination. Look, I dont know what the answer in this case is. I wish people would pay attention. I am concerned with the implications of this new law they are trying to pass, that is all. I am trying to make some sense of this like everybody else. I am just trying to look at a different point of view that is all.


327 posted on 03/20/2005 11:48:22 AM PST by Beeline40@aol.com (What is an Esthetician...?)
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To: varon

I think Bill Clinton and Lawton Chiles would have already acted by now if Terri were a Democrat constituent facing this horror. And the media would have cheered Clinton or Chiles for acting extralegally.


328 posted on 03/20/2005 11:48:42 AM PST by Theodore R. (Will the GOP fiddle while Terri churns?)
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To: Dolphy
I see that point but I don't have any hesitation in believing that it is an individual right and responsibility first.

I just hope after all this is done that you will still have that individual right. That is precisely what I'm worried about losing. That no matter what you want, the Congress of the United States will have the last say, not you.

329 posted on 03/20/2005 11:48:42 AM PST by MarketR ("We are pioneers of the world; the advance-guard, sent on through the wilderness of untried things")
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To: Callahan

The law states that Terry's wishes are to be carried out.


??? What wishes -ya mean the one she put in writing? Or the hearsay wishes that went unnoticed til several years later (the one after the money was recd.)


330 posted on 03/20/2005 11:49:24 AM PST by lilypad
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To: kcvl
The logos and links are ironically dead on this and won't copy, so I've typed them.   

Transforming the Culture of Dying                PDIA  (Project on Death in America)

Profiles of PDIA-Funded Researchers and Projects

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Ira Byock, M.D.
Barbara K. Spring, M.D.

As a hospice physician and medical director, Dr. Ira Byock is only too aware of the difference between a "good" death and a "bad" death, and the fact that the latter far outnumber the former. But instead of working only with the medical profession to reverse this equation, he and gerontologist Dr. Barbara K. Spring set out to engage an entire Montana town in examining the dying process and making it better. The Missoula Demonstration Project: The Quality of Life's End is the most ambitious effort of its kind in the United States. Modeled after a famous long-term heart disease study which collected data on an entire community, the 15-year Missoula Demonstration Project aims not only to improve the quality of life's end in Missoula, but to stimulate other efforts throughout the country. Organized in 1996, and overseen by an international advisory committee, the project is engaged in several studies to understand people's experiences, attitudes, values, customs and concerns about death. By looking at 250 families which experienced a death within a one-year period, for instance, and by gathering data in all health-care settings that treat or care for dying people, researchers hope to create, as Byock puts it, an "intensive, high-definition picture of dying, death and bereavement in Missoula." "Our approach," says Barbara Spring, "is to focus on what people seem to worry about the most-pain, the length of the dying process, isolation, and other things that make them miserable."

331 posted on 03/20/2005 11:50:37 AM PST by windchime (Hillary: "I've always been a preying person")
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To: Terriergal

Well then I guess I got away with murder. Thanks for clearing that up for me.


332 posted on 03/20/2005 11:52:10 AM PST by Beeline40@aol.com (What is an Esthetician...?)
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To: don-o
>> Speaking of low down, any sightings of the ghoul Greer?

Please, I paid good money for my lunch and would like to keep it down.

333 posted on 03/20/2005 11:52:52 AM PST by T'wit (Retire to Florida! Bring your estate. No feeding tube needed. The crematorium is warm and ready!)
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To: Ohioan from Florida

Hey Ohioan: did you catch HINO on the news last nite, he made a statement "I should be with my wife holding her hand right now...." I wanted to barf. Is he saying he wants to comfort her...I thought she was brain dead and unable to feel anything. Also he always has his Charley MCarthy puppet (Felos) with him. I think Felos is afraid that idiot is going to say something that needs defending.


334 posted on 03/20/2005 11:52:58 AM PST by lilypad
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To: Beeline40@aol.com
This issue is bigger than her. I am concerned that the federal govt is going to come in and take over this type of decision.

I was just listening to the cspan coverage of 3 of the Repub. congressmen. One of them, Rep. Marzullo (IL), said "Living wills are not in danger here."

Either he or Rep. Weldon then said, if we find that there are abuses of this bill, then we'll amend it. But Terri is in need today. She can't wait.

Weldon, a physician, also said Terri may not make it while this congressional business goes on.

335 posted on 03/20/2005 11:54:48 AM PST by texasbluebell
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To: Beeline40@aol.com

Hard to face? Many things are. In any case -- you should face up to it and live on. It is common -- not right -- but common. Let us stop any more of it.


336 posted on 03/20/2005 11:55:22 AM PST by bvw
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To: mzbzybee
You mean to tell me that all 19 judges are corrupt in this case?

LAME, DEAD, ARGUMENT! They all reviewed and ruled on the process, not the facts. One little corrupt tyrant ruled on what the 'facts' were. There in lies the problem.

337 posted on 03/20/2005 11:55:52 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: jennyjenny

That reminds me of what Rep. Dreier (CA) said Friday:

"A wise and frugal govt will restrain men from injuring each other..."

Quoting Jefferson in 1801.


338 posted on 03/20/2005 11:57:37 AM PST by texasbluebell
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To: MarketR

This case has nothing to do with organ donation. You can only use the organs if they are still fully functioning as life support is withdrawn, such as a respirator. You CANNOT used organs from a person who has been dehydrated to death. The organs are useless. Please people, educate yourselves. Now you are trying to give organ donation a bad name. sheesh!!!


339 posted on 03/20/2005 11:58:02 AM PST by lilypad
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To: Windcatcher
"Dem just said that Congress is violating the separation of Church and State because they are "acting on regligious beliefs."

Sometimes a person's religious beliefs are totally inline with his personal beliefs, and vice versa. So it seems the dems are saying that politicians should abandon their personal feelings and beliefs if they happen to parallel their religious beliefs.

I've long known that most Democrat politicians are socialists and communists, in other words, atheists and agnostics. And they want their lack of beliefs to supercede your beliefs.

340 posted on 03/20/2005 11:58:22 AM PST by TheCrusader ("the frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" - Pope Urban II, 1097 A.D.)
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