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NY Times: Starvation Death Not Painful
NewsMax.com ^ | March 20, 2005 | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

Posted on 03/20/2005 5:15:38 AM PST by MisterRepublican

The newspaper that was most outraged over photos of Iraqi terrorist suspects being mistreated by U.S. soldiers at Abu Ghraib prison said Sunday that the two week-long starvation-execution of Terri Schiavo will cause her "little discomfort."

"From the data that is available, it is not a horrific thing at all," Dr. Linda Emanuel, the founder of the Education for Physicians in End-of-Life Care Project at Northwestern University tells the New York Times.

"In fact, declining food and water is a common way that terminally ill patients end their lives, because it is less painful than violent suicide and requires no help from doctors," the paper maintains.

The Times also cites Dr. Sean Morrison, a professor of geriatrics and palliative care at Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York, who insists that starvation victims "generally slip into a peaceful coma."

"It's very quiet, it's very dignified - it's very gentle," he adds.

Other experts not quoted by the Times, however, disagree.

Wesley J. Smith, a senior fellow at the Discovery Institute and an attorney and consultant for the International Task Force on Euthanasia and Assisted Suicide, says that in fact, for a conscious patient like Terri Schiavo, death by starvation will be fraught with agony.

In his book "Forced Exit, The Slippery Slope from Assisted Suicide to Legalized Murder," Smith reports:

"A conscious person would feel it [dehydration] just as you and I would. They will go into seizures. Their skin cracks, their tongue cracks, their lips crack.

"They may have nosebleeds because of the drying of the mucous membranes, and heaving and vomiting might ensue because of the drying out of the stomach lining."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: euthanasia
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To: MisterRepublican

This is so outrageously stupid and evil
that it just might start a revolution...


21 posted on 03/20/2005 5:26:25 AM PST by sirchtruth (Words Mean Things...)
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To: MikeinIraq

absolutely.


22 posted on 03/20/2005 5:26:48 AM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Modok

At least now we know how the left plans to fix social security ...

if you can't feed yourself .....


23 posted on 03/20/2005 5:26:54 AM PST by THEUPMAN (#### comment deleted by moderator)
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To: Modok
I saw Dr. Morrison on Linda Vester's show the other day. He went through his spiel about how this wasn't painful, it's done all the time, people don't understand, etc. etc.

The audience listened attentively but with grim looks. After he was done, Linda Vester asked the audience if they felt that Terry's feeding tube should be removed. ALL answered "NO!" very loudly!

Then an Irish man asked Dr. Morrison if he would recommend giving Terry a lethal injection. Dr. Morrison said, "No, of course not."

Irish guy then said, "Oh, then you're just playing with words, aren't you?"

Miss Marple hereby states to all who read this: DO NOT TREAT ME AT MT. SINAI!!!

24 posted on 03/20/2005 5:28:32 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: MisterRepublican
A stopped clock is right twice a day.

It should not be necessary to stop the murder of Terri Schiavo to make up fairy tales about the course of terminal dehydration.

It's what the phrase "natural death" means, and when the time comes, it's clearly the way to go (considering the alternatives).

25 posted on 03/20/2005 5:28:48 AM PST by Jim Noble
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To: MisterRepublican

The next time some looney goes on a hunger strike protesting something do you think the Times will whip this article out?


26 posted on 03/20/2005 5:29:01 AM PST by ko_kyi
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To: MisterRepublican

Well if it's not painful let's strip death row inmates of the right to lethal injection and starve them to death. Anyone want to gamble on how long before the NYT's raises hell?


27 posted on 03/20/2005 5:29:17 AM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: MisterRepublican

This is a blatant lie! As testified by the women who was in a coma, (she was on Hannity) it was extremely painful!!!


28 posted on 03/20/2005 5:29:48 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: MisterRepublican
Dr. Sean Morrison

This guy was on Fox the other night, O'Reilly I think. Pure death cultist.

29 posted on 03/20/2005 5:29:58 AM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: MisterRepublican
Linking this up to here....

THE 'VAST LIFE-WING CONSPIRACY' AGAINST MICHAEL SCHIAVO [FR Link page]

[Several FReepers have helped to make it a great research page. ]

FReegards....

30 posted on 03/20/2005 5:30:04 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Profile page streamlined, solely devoted to Terri.)
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To: MisterRepublican
The Times also cites Dr. Sean Morrison, a professor of geriatrics and palliative care at Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York, who insists that starvation victims "generally slip into a peaceful coma."

As the federal court appeals process on the 'right to live' is denied to Terri Schiavo so that she can 'slip into a peaceful coma' and die, so then should all capital murder convicts sitting on death row be treated the same. Lock the cells and starve them. They don't need no stinkin federal appeals process either!!!!!!!!!

31 posted on 03/20/2005 5:30:17 AM PST by eeriegeno
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To: MisterRepublican

Why isn't NYT packaged as in the same format as toilet paper? Subscribing might be cheaper than buying Charmin.


32 posted on 03/20/2005 5:30:26 AM PST by Tax Government (Boycott and defeat the Legacy Media. Become a monthly contributor to FR.)
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To: MisterRepublican

If Starvation is such a merciful way to murder an innocent and helpless woman, we are morally bound to begin using starvation as the humane way of executing convicted murderers. Just lock them in a cell on death row and forget they are there until the smell becomes unbearable-then cremate what is left.

Someone posted a while back, that the Chiavo's had only been married for five months when this incident with Teri occured. Anyone know if that is true?


33 posted on 03/20/2005 5:30:51 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Bush sed:Let's roll!, Liberal Dims Sed: Let's troll!- nuf sed!)
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To: Soul Seeker
Well if it's not painful let's strip death row inmates of the right to lethal injection and starve them to death. Anyone want to gamble on how long before the NYT's raises hell?

The NYT raises hell about the terrible pain the criminal experiences when the needle is placed in his arm.

34 posted on 03/20/2005 5:31:16 AM PST by John Thornton ("Appeasers always hope that the crocodile will eat them last." Winston Churchill)
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To: Modok

Dr. Death contact info:

http://directory.mssm.edu/faculty/facultyInfo.php?id=24934&deptid=14

Rolfe Sean Morrison, M.D.
Professor, Geriatrics And Adult Development
Professor, Medicine

E-mail: sean.morrison@mssm.edu
Tel: (212) 241-1466
Fax: (212) 860-9737


35 posted on 03/20/2005 5:32:20 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: MisterRepublican

Does this mean there will be no more fund raisers for starving people in (you fill in the blank). I guess there is no need to send food or medicine any where in the world.


36 posted on 03/20/2005 5:33:16 AM PST by marty60
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To: MisterRepublican

"It's very quiet, it's very dignified - it's very gentle," he adds.

So now we know why people like that have no problem ignoring man-made famines like those of Stalin or Ethiopia or just about any other famine in the modern world.


37 posted on 03/20/2005 5:34:08 AM PST by rotstan
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To: LoudRepublicangirl
In the early days of AIDS we were told it was a gay cancer-brought on by homosexual activity-again WRONG.

Yes, but what do the statistics actually show about which population segment contracts the desease more...

That was the point.

38 posted on 03/20/2005 5:35:27 AM PST by sirchtruth (Words Mean Things...)
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To: twntaipan


The NY Times have always been proponents of the starvation of innocents for political purposes.
39 posted on 03/20/2005 5:35:28 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: carlr
If this bast##d down in Fla.that killed the little girl tries to starve himself to death won`t the state at some point force feed him to keep him alive?

Good point. Wouldn't it be nice if society (the courts especially) had their priorities in order?

John Couey should be the one starved to death, while Terri is the one who is rehabilitated.

40 posted on 03/20/2005 5:36:31 AM PST by pocat
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