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"TODAY MARCH 18TH STARVATION DAY #1 FOR TERRI SCHIAVO...FREEP FOR HER LIFE" (Thread 2)
various ^ | 3/17/2005 | various

Posted on 03/17/2005 5:58:41 PM PST by tutstar

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To: Pepper777

I know I read in an article that the stoma was stitched closed.. It was a Felos quote.

I will keep looking for it....


3,661 posted on 03/20/2005 12:18:12 PM PST by bizzzymom ( - Evil never wins! My blog for Terri-----> http://thedailyquip.blogspot.com/)
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To: ruoflaw

Hammer this jerk----his Email: henican@newsday.com


http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0320-22.htm


3,662 posted on 03/20/2005 12:20:00 PM PST by Chocolate Rose (FOR HONEST NEWS REPORTING GET THE SCOOP HERE : www.theEmpireJournal.com/)
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To: Graymatter

> "Bush Cuts Vacation, Hopes to Sign Schiavo Bill."
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> I know he wouldn't do this but I wish he'd have stayed in Florida ...

I believe the report is about Pres. Bush, not Gov. Bush. I haven't heard any report about Gov. Bush's whereabouts this weekend.


3,663 posted on 03/20/2005 12:20:12 PM PST by l.tecolote (doing what I can from California)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Unfortunately, yes.

Even this is enough to stop it. He admitted murder. From Larry King Show on the 18th

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M. SCHIAVO: Yes, I do. But this is not about them, it's about Terri. And I've also said that in court. We didn't know what Terri wanted, but this is what we want...

3,664 posted on 03/20/2005 12:21:02 PM PST by bjs1779 (I fed Terri small mouthfuls of Jello, which she swallowed and enjoyed immensely" Cna H.Law 1997)
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To: amdgmary
"Have they ever met her?" Schiavo said. "What color are her eyes? What's her middle name? What's her favorite color? They don't have any clue who Terri is. They should all be ashamed of themselves."

Michael you won't let me in, so I can't see her, but I know the answers to your questions:

1. Terri's eyes are brown.

2. Terri's middle name is Marie.

3. Her favorite color is purple.

She also loves animals and was a talented artist in her younger years. John Denver was her favorite musician.

You have betrayed her, Michael, even before she collapsed. You are lower than low, and one day, Michael, you WILL pay for all that you put her through!

3,665 posted on 03/20/2005 12:22:15 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: bjs1779; Theodore R.; LadyPilgrim

How 'bout them Democrats?


3,666 posted on 03/20/2005 12:22:49 PM PST by Filthy Rich Republican Fat Cat
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To: bizzzymom

I don't want to see anything Felos said.

FELOS LIED ABOUT TERRI'S CONDITION OF PVS.

Felos is a LIAR. PLEASE DON'T CONFUSE THE ISSUE WITH AN ARTICLE FROM THE LIAR FELOS.

If Terri is sick, we do NOT need to hear from the spinning liar FELOS.

I'm not yelling at you. Just trying to make a point.


3,667 posted on 03/20/2005 12:23:15 PM PST by Pepper777 (Terri Should be ALLOWED TO HAVE THERAPY - Not Death by Starvation)
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To: bjs1779
M. SCHIAVO: Yes, I do. But this is not about them, it's about Terri. And I've also said that in court. We didn't know what Terri wanted, but this is what we want...

March 18th? He was stupid enough to say that?! Who is "we"?

3,668 posted on 03/20/2005 12:24:06 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Life support. canned, frozen or fresh, it's good for you!)
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To: Ohioan from Florida

You are lower than low, and one day, Michael, you WILL pay for all that you put her through!

ditto


3,669 posted on 03/20/2005 12:24:13 PM PST by Condi4Prez (ITALY stands with the U.S.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Terri Schiavo's mother Mary Schindler fights back tears before she enters the Woodside Hospice to visit her daughter, Terri Schiavo in Pinellas Park, Florida on March 20, 2005. Mary Schindler spoke to the media outside the Woodside Hospice House where Schiavo lives before the visit. REUTERS/Charles W. Luzier

3,670 posted on 03/20/2005 12:24:23 PM PST by Chocolate Rose (FOR HONEST NEWS REPORTING GET THE SCOOP HERE : www.theEmpireJournal.com/)
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To: Chocolate Rose

ALSO NEED TO HAMMER FOX NEWS - THEY ARE AS BAD AS THE DEMOS.

THEY HAD DOCTORS on their programs, WHO HAVE LIED ABOUT TERRI.

TELL FOX NEWS ABOUT TERRI'S INFECTION.

speakout@foxnews.com

We have not a minute to spare. I've been trying all day to get Fox New to tell the truth. I've been emailing them all day. Told them I'll stop watching them, they stop the BS about Terri.


3,671 posted on 03/20/2005 12:25:55 PM PST by Pepper777 (Terri Should be ALLOWED TO HAVE THERAPY - Not Death by Starvation)
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To: Pepper777
DOES ANYONE HAVE DELAY OR WELDON'S FAX NUMBER?

1-202-225-5241 fax Tom Delay
1-202-225-3516 fax Dave Weldon

3,672 posted on 03/20/2005 12:26:10 PM PST by supercat ("Though her life has been sold for corrupt men's gold, she refuses to give up the ghost.")
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To: Graymatter

> WHERE IS THE DCF?

After Greer dismissed DCF's motion for a 60 day reprieve to accomplish its investigation, the DCF appealed to the 2nd District and then to the Florida Supreme Ct. Dismissal upheld at highest level, so that avenue is sealed off. There will be no investigation unless/until Congress passes legislation enabling Terri's case to be reviewed De Novo in a federal court.


3,673 posted on 03/20/2005 12:26:36 PM PST by l.tecolote (doing what I can from California)
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To: l.tecolote

I heard yesterday (or the day before) that President Bush was in Florida also. That's what I was referring to.


3,674 posted on 03/20/2005 12:27:21 PM PST by Graymatter (Free Tehiri al-Shaifo, US-held torture victim and hospice detainee.)
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To: floriduh voter; tutstar; Ohioan from Florida; Republic; Chocolate Rose; Pegita; pc93; All
Excerpt from Cheryl Ford, R.N., regarding Terri's Exit Protocols -- from the last episode: -- READ, CALL CONGRESS - DEMOCRAT SENATORS AND REPRESENTATIVES (www.house.gov; www.senate.gov)- cry, pray, pray, pray:

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“This is a very critical piece of information from a nurse’s point of view,” Ford said. “We have a patient with no apparent signs of distress, yet enteral tube feeding is going to be discontinued on 4/20/01. This is murder. And it’s premeditated murder, because look at the dates — notes were prepared the day before the tube was supposed to be withdrawn.”

What would make the death more difficult is that Terri is a healthy woman, weighing approximately 138.5 pounds, which means she will endure longer than other patients who are in the midst of a natural-death process.

“I was an oncology (cancer) nurse,” Ford said. “These people are very weak and gaunt. Their bodies are already shutting down, and their tube feedings are withdrawn when their body systems can no longer handle it. But Terri is not a cancer patient — that’s what bothers me. She’s a healthy young woman.”

• Upon discontinuation of enteral feeding the following signs/symptoms may or may not occur. The following is a brief list of symptoms for which to monitor and recommended interventions.

• Monitor symptoms of pain/discomfort. If noted, medicate with Naproxen rectal suppository 375 mg. Q8 prn [“Q8 prn” means eight times a day as needed].

If someone in a persistent vegetative state cannot feel pain, as Michael Schiavo and his attorney, George Felos, have consistently told the world, why do Terri’s charts tell nurses how to treat her for pain?

According to Ford, that is because Terri can and will feel pain during this process — and a lot of it.

“Think about what hunger pains are like if you haven’t eaten in a while,” Ford said. “You start to get that gnawing feeling, almost a burning in your stomach. Most people don’t extend themselves into the depths of hunger. They grab a cracker or bread if they’re out shopping for a while just to make themselves feel better.”

Terri would not have this option, however. “Within several hours, she’ll start to feel this kind of hunger pain,” Ford said.

Dehydration would only add to the discomfort: “When she starts going into the dehydration stage, her metabolism will start to change. Her electrolytes will get imbalanced. She’s going to get uncomfortable and will start to writhe.

“Advance a couple days without food or water. Now her mouth is parched, her lips, her gums, her tongue will start to crack and bleed. The nasal cavities will start to dry, crack and bleed. The stomach will get dry and shrink, causing vomiting and heaving,” Ford said.

• Pulmonary (a) Inability to clear secretions — reposition and swab mouth, consider scopolamine patch behind ear every 3 days.

“When you first go into dehydration, your body will automatically compensate by making saliva. But when she gets into the stage where the stomach shrinks and nausea begins, they’re going to stick a patch behind her ear for the nausea. What the patch also does is dehydrate you by taking away this fluid.”

(b) Dyspnea — nebulize low dose 2-5 mg. Morphine sulfate Q4 prn [four times a day as needed]. “Dyspnea is when you have difficulty breathing. What they’re going to do is use a nebulizer the way you might use for asthmatics — only instead of giving a histamine to help her breathe, they’re going to give Terri morphine sulfate, which only suppresses respiration more. In the later phases she’ll start gasping for air.”

In seven to nine days, as most of her body fluids are lost, her blood pressure will go down and her heart rate will rise. The blood will be shunted to the central part of the body from the periphery of the body, so that usually two to three days prior to death, the hands and feet become extremely cold. They become mottled and have a bluish appearance. The eyes will become so dry the patient can’t move them anymore because there will be fluid in them.

• Multifocal myoclonus or terminal agitation [sometimes caused by electrolyte imbalance]. Consider diazepam rectal administration 5-10 mg. May repeat in 4 hours if not resolved then daily — twice daily as needed. Multifocal myoclonus means seizures taking place in various parts of the body. “Because of the electrolyte imbalance, Terri will begin to have seizures,” Ford said. “She’ll start to twitch. You don’t see this in an oncology patient because they’re already dehydrated. Even the elderly, who are going into the natural process of death, their bodies are doing what God created them to do — slow down.

“Our job as health-care professionals at this point is to understand the death process and to oblige the process God has given these people to help them in comfort measures — palliative care — not to enhance death. But Terri’s not terminal,” Ford said. “What they’re doing here is starving a healthy person to death. This is the only reason why she’ll go into multifocal myoclonus.”

• Grand Mal seizure, which is highly unlikely given current conditions and lack of contributing factors (meds) [medication]. Recommend diazepam 15 mg. rectally as indicated in seizure management orders.

“If she happens to make it into a grand mal seizure, they will give her 15 mg. of valium. … The valium won’t make this easier, it will just help to bring her to death faster, because she won’t have the ability to fight her way out of it,” Ford said. “Her body will not be in good shape at this point. You wouldn’t look at her and say she was comfortable. She’s been without food and water for a long time. She’s pretty much withered, her skin is broken down, her metabolism is broken down, her kidneys haven’t received anything. Her body is reacting to the lack of food.”

At this point, death is imminent.

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Please pray ... dear Lord, grant her Your mercy.

3,675 posted on 03/20/2005 12:27:30 PM PST by STARWISE (RIGHT HAS BECOME WRONG -- WRONG HAS BECOME A RIGHT .. PRAY PRAY PRAY FOR TERRI SCHIAVO!)
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To: DJ MacWoW

look at #3662 and give this idiot an education! I am afraid that I was less than nice!


3,676 posted on 03/20/2005 12:28:17 PM PST by ruoflaw
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To: bjs1779
Even this is enough to stop it. He admitted murder. From Larry King Show on the 18th

M. SCHIAVO: Yes, I do. But this is not about them, it's about Terri. And I've also said that in court. We didn't know what Terri wanted, but this is what we want...

Did he really say that!? Can anyone confirm? Michael needs to be indicted NOW and the tube reinserted. And antibiotics administered.

3,677 posted on 03/20/2005 12:28:56 PM PST by supercat ("Though her life has been sold for corrupt men's gold, she refuses to give up the ghost.")
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To: STARWISE

Fox News-Michael has suspended family's visits.


3,678 posted on 03/20/2005 12:29:44 PM PST by windchime (Hillary: "I've always been a preying person")
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To: supercat

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0503/18/lkl.01.html


3,679 posted on 03/20/2005 12:29:55 PM PST by bjs1779 (I fed Terri small mouthfuls of Jello, which she swallowed and enjoyed immensely" Cna H.Law 1997)
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To: STARWISE

as per FOX


Michael suspending all family visits


3,680 posted on 03/20/2005 12:30:03 PM PST by bizzzymom ( - Evil never wins! My blog for Terri-----> http://thedailyquip.blogspot.com/)
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