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Kiev admits sending cruise missiles to Iran and China
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Posted on 03/17/2005 12:15:35 PM PST by Alex Marko
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To: Alex Marko
Clones of these to appear at a War Zone near you soon.
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posted on
03/17/2005 12:16:59 PM PST
by
drt1
To: Alex Marko
The black legacy of the Soviet Union continues to haunt the world
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posted on
03/17/2005 12:24:12 PM PST
by
cake_crumb
(Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
To: cake_crumb
Chinese will bootleg these into 1000's faster than a new york minute.
The masters of bootlegging.
To: drt1
It will take a while for the Chinese to copy them.
The worrisome thing is that China can use it as an always ready nuclear force; their current ICBMs are liquid fueled, and cannot be held in a fueled state for long without needing defuelling and maintenance; so they have to be fueled well before any possible launch time. The Kent missiles (NATO name for the AS-15) are always ready.
As for Iran... Well, congrats, Europe - they can hit Rome now, for sure. Surprise! It's no longer speculation - the AS-15 is a known tested quantity. (Unlike the somewhat unproven Shahab-6, which can theoretically hit London, Oslo, Paris, Berlin and lots of other fun places.)
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posted on
03/17/2005 12:28:14 PM PST
by
Spktyr
(Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Alex Marko
I favor sending cruise missles to Iran especially if they are followed by JDAMs.
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posted on
03/17/2005 12:35:24 PM PST
by
Paleo Conservative
(I Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
To: superiorslots
"The masters of bootlegging."Yep.
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posted on
03/17/2005 12:35:26 PM PST
by
cake_crumb
(Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
To: antoninartaud
Thats exactly how WW1 happened, without the MAD.
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posted on
03/17/2005 12:36:05 PM PST
by
ruiner
To: Spktyr
Indeed. Congratulations, EUrope.
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posted on
03/17/2005 12:38:00 PM PST
by
cake_crumb
(Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
To: Spktyr
Iran bought 12: means that's all they could afford and because they can't copy them.
China bought 6: means they bought 4 for immediate testing to see how they can improve upon them, and 2 sent off the bootleg labs.
You underestimate the chinese. They will have thousands of improved versions of these in 2-3 years.
To: Alex Marko
Looks somewhat like a Russian version of our TLAM.
To: Alex Marko
The X-55 has a range of 3,000 km, enough to put Japan within striking range of the Asian continent or to reach Israel from Iran.With Iran's new "electricity producing" nuclear program, I wouldn't want to be in Israel.
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posted on
03/17/2005 12:39:36 PM PST
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demsux
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To: superiorslots
I said a while. I was addressing the impression that they were going to have 100,000 out by next Tuesday.
China's been working on LACMs for a while. I expect them to have initial operational capability on something like an AS-15 in two years, tops.
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posted on
03/17/2005 12:41:14 PM PST
by
Spktyr
(Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
To: ruiner
I'd like to hear what Vlad has to say about his puppet government selling this ICBMs to Iran and China.
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posted on
03/17/2005 12:41:46 PM PST
by
cake_crumb
(Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
To: superiorslots
So, has "bootleg" recently acquired a new definition = "reverse engineer"? The definition of the word has nothing to do with reproducing anything.
(Dictionary.com)
boot·leg
v.
- To make, sell, or transport (alcoholic liquor) for sale illegally.
- To produce, distribute, or sell without permission or illegally: a clandestine outfit that bootlegs compact discs and tapes.
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posted on
03/17/2005 12:44:28 PM PST
by
TChris
(Lousy homophobic FReeper troll, religious right, VRWC member)
To: cake_crumb
It's a cruise missile, not a ICBM.
ICBMs go WAY up in the air, exit the atmosphere, and then come back down - hence the "ballistic" part of their name.
Cruise missiles are like unmanned kamikaze airplanes. They fly to their target in the atmosphere either at high altitude or at low level.
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posted on
03/17/2005 12:44:41 PM PST
by
Spktyr
(Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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