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The Fire in Iran. Forget about diplomacy, this is war.
NRO ^ | March 17, 2005, 7:53 a.m. | Michael Ledeen

Posted on 03/17/2005 7:59:31 AM PST by .cnI redruM

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I thought Bill Clinton said the Iranians were Progressives.
1 posted on 03/17/2005 7:59:32 AM PST by .cnI redruM
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To: .cnI redruM

Perhaps Mr. Ledeen can muster the Democrats, extra divisions and international support required for a direct assault on the Iranian and Syrian regimes.

If not, I suggest he restrict his prescriptions to the possible. That includes moral, diplomatic, economic, and perhaps covert support of the counter-revolutionaries.

Bush never said the B-52's were warmed up and ready for the signal.


3 posted on 03/17/2005 8:07:41 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Impotent [birthrates] Lazy [un-employment %] Cowardly [Militarily Unprepared] Euroweenies!)
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To: .cnI redruM
"Bush, you told us to rise up, and so we have. Why don’t you act?"

A prediction: if history is unkind to Bush, it will be because he was too dove-ish, not too hawkish. We need to be more decisive, more aggressive.

4 posted on 03/17/2005 8:07:45 AM PST by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("The insurgents are weak, they are afraid of democracy, they are losing." Batool Al Musawi)
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To: antoninartaud
If only I could boil response down to a good, snappy tagline.
5 posted on 03/17/2005 8:08:46 AM PST by .cnI redruM (Journalists are not very bright, and invariably subscribe to a litany of dubious theories!)
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To: .cnI redruM

I thought Bill Clinton said the Iranians were Progressives

They are.

"Iranian authorities beat up and tear gassed exuberant young revellers"


6 posted on 03/17/2005 8:12:09 AM PST by Valin (DARE to be average!)
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To: .cnI redruM

Wow... NRO invocked Machiavelli against Bush.


7 posted on 03/17/2005 8:17:58 AM PST by Pelayo
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Hmmm... the cops over there look scary. Good thing they're mostly covered up.
8 posted on 03/17/2005 8:21:24 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: F14 Pilot; DoctorZIn

AZADI ping!


9 posted on 03/17/2005 8:23:49 AM PST by King Prout (Remember John Adam!)
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To: F14 Pilot; DoctorZIn

as I said last year at this time: look to Yazd. This time next year. don't ask me any questions. I cannot answer.


10 posted on 03/17/2005 8:28:38 AM PST by King Prout (Remember John Adam!)
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To: Brad Cloven
Bush never said the B-52's were warmed up and ready for the signal.

Nope, IIRC, he said "The idea that we are going to attack Iran is ridiculous. That said, all options are on the table."

If there's one thing I've learned in this WOT is is that things never happen fast enough for me but when they do they happen with astonishing rapidity.

I totally understand the frustration of the students in Iran. The people of Lebanon may feel the same frustration soon. I have faith that Dubya Booosh will not leave them hanging, even if it takes too long for my liking.

11 posted on 03/17/2005 8:30:02 AM PST by johnb838 ("You Have Ruled, Now Let Us See You Enforce" Need some wood?)
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To: Brad Cloven
This article is a mess. NRO's standards may be slipping....

Mr. Ledeen's various paragraphs are very much at odds with each other. In some places he refers to "very large scale demonstrations," and later he describes "hundreds of Iranians" out for a night of partying.

And, of course, it's all a setup for the inevitable Ledeen Bush-bash.

12 posted on 03/17/2005 8:31:11 AM PST by r9etb
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To: T. Buzzard Trueblood

Perhaps that is true, but there is no other American politician who would have done what Bush has to date.


13 posted on 03/17/2005 8:31:17 AM PST by spyone
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To: Bon mots

Hmmm... the cops over there look scary. Good thing they're mostly covered up.

Hmmm...do they call them "undercover cops"?


14 posted on 03/17/2005 8:43:45 AM PST by Big Digger (I)
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To: spyone
Perhaps that is true, but there is no other American politician who would have done what Bush has to date.

Absolutely. I'm just suggesting that we could use more of the Bush doctrine, not less of it.

15 posted on 03/17/2005 8:54:38 AM PST by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("The insurgents are weak, they are afraid of democracy, they are losing." Batool Al Musawi)
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To: r9etb

It easier to see that the "hundreds of Iranians" line is a quote from Reuters reading the article at the NRO webpage due to the formatting and the paragraphing.

But, it is a Reuters quote, which he is critizing saying there were thousands.

Cheers.


16 posted on 03/17/2005 9:00:22 AM PST by Eurotwit
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To: Big Digger

I think so.

The sumo wrestler on the left is way too big to sit in that little car. If she ever had to hoof it and haul a$$ it would take two trips!


17 posted on 03/17/2005 9:01:24 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: .cnI redruM
Reading through the various Iran posts over the last year or so it has struck me that the Iranian opposition, including their US based exile supporters, are naive about what it takes to overthrow the mullahs.

"Bush, you told us to rise up, and so we have. Why don’t you act?"

... ...Might be a sign of that naivete or merely a journalist's cheap shot at GWB ("Faster, confound it."). Whatever it is, the Iranian opposition needs to understand that no one will step in to stop or support on and off demonstrations or because of an email report from the opposition that is probably overblown in its estimate of arrests, beatings, etc.

There will have to be a serious and broad based movement such as appears to exist in Lebanon; absent that it's going to be a long haul.

18 posted on 03/17/2005 9:02:05 AM PST by norton (build a wall and post the rules at the gate)
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To: T. Buzzard Trueblood
Leadership is all about winning and losing, not about elegance and deep thinking.
20 posted on 03/17/2005 10:01:02 AM PST by jdege
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