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Fulton Co. Judge shot and killed in courthouse shooting (BREAKING Fri 9A)
WAGA-TV/WSB-TV Atlanta | 3.11.05

Posted on 03/11/2005 6:39:06 AM PST by mhking

This is a breaking news situation.

A man entered a courtroom in the Fulton County Courthouse this morning and shot a Fulton County Sheriff's deputy, a clerk and a judge; there are reports from both WSB and WAGA, the judge is deceased.

The perp has carjacked multiple vehicles -- now on his third -- and is still at large.

I've just come from downtown Atlanta, and the city is a madhouse.


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To: panaxanax

I've been watching this since around 10:00 this morning and they have repeatedly said he was, "black, with a medium complexion". You've just not heard it.


2,741 posted on 03/11/2005 2:37:09 PM PST by jennyjenny
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To: yukong

Your career description sounds like the resume of a relative of mine. If you were a cop in California and then went to O.U. for law school - then you are a relative of mine. I wouldn't want to be any more descriptive than that.


2,742 posted on 03/11/2005 2:37:29 PM PST by 7mmMag@LeftCoast
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To: El Gato
when the Kobe Bryant defense team wanted the term "victim" not to be used by the Prosecutor in court, the judge thought that was a grand idea.... he didn't want the jury to be prejudiced against the defense.....lol....

.I think some freepers thought so too.....

we better get back to the idea of the bad guys vs the good guys, and stop treating them the same.....

2,743 posted on 03/11/2005 2:37:29 PM PST by cherry
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To: Dead Corpse
Yer talking a .40 with a 180gr at 900fps vs a 10mm 200gr at 1200 fps. No comparisson what so ever.

Ballistically, the .40S&W is almost identical to the 'tried-and-true' .38-40, which was never considered to be an espescially 'wussy' round. Unless you're wanting to put meat in the freezer (which even the .38-40 did for decades), how much power do you need? You planning to shoot through steel plate, or what?

;>)

2,744 posted on 03/11/2005 2:37:57 PM PST by Who is John Galt? ("I'll be your 'Lightning Rod of Hate!'" - Colin Mochrie)
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To: panaxanax

That is true. And the cable news outlets have been reporting on this nonstop. I am sure there is other news to report on besides this and Whacko in California.


2,745 posted on 03/11/2005 2:37:59 PM PST by hsmomx3 (Steelers in '06)
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To: Darksheare

You are probably caught up. There hasn't been any real news for hours. The last thing we heard was that the cops were converging on an area near Georgia Tech, but the TV choppers won't carry it live because of some policy.


2,746 posted on 03/11/2005 2:38:14 PM PST by retrokitten (I heart Tony Snow)
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To: jennyjenny

Does it matter if he is black? Evil knows no color. This is an evil man.


2,747 posted on 03/11/2005 2:38:28 PM PST by tiredoflaundry (My quaker parrot can talk, can Your honor student fly?)
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To: doodad
He went into a lot of stuff I am not familiar with up here in W. Kentucky. Rather than say a lot of things that might be wrong I condensed.
2,748 posted on 03/11/2005 2:39:59 PM PST by MKM1960
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To: Who is John Galt?; Dead Corpse

http://web4.integraonline.com/~bbroadside/EFEII.html


2,749 posted on 03/11/2005 2:40:41 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: cherry

I never said it was racially motivated. What I said was that if the guy got to a black neighborhood, then it would be harder to find him. Harder because he is very non-descript, of average build and appearance...hundreds and hundreds that would match his description...and that in a hard neighborhood, there will be enough thugs that would not be offended by what he did and would render aid and comfort. If he got into a fortified drug house with some gang types, he could hole up for days or weeks.

Sad that this notion has obviously offended some, but reality is reality. I speak from 20 years of this sort of thing. Thugs do cover for thugs. White, black, asian, whatever. So, just because some don't like what I have said, doesn't change the fact that is happens. I have been there. I have interviewed this type of turd. I have defended them, and prosecuted them. Don't shoot the messenger...or do if you want. But that doesn't change the facts. If any don't think this happens, then you live in a quite naive/sheltered world. I have been on the streets and in the hood. It happens.


2,750 posted on 03/11/2005 2:41:08 PM PST by yukong
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To: panaxanax
I'm saying that BEFORE they posted his picture, THEY wee describing him as "Medium Complexion". Black was NEVER mentioned.

The first description I heard released (around 10:15 am) said he was black. As far as I know that was the first official description of any kind.

2,751 posted on 03/11/2005 2:41:40 PM PST by Dolphy
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To: tiredoflaundry
Does it matter if he is black?

Only for purposes of identification. I agree, this isn't a racial incident and he's one evil sumbitch. He was a rape suspect standing re-trial, and he shot the judge and a court reporter and 2 deputies, and now everybody is looking for him and we need to know what he looks like.

2,752 posted on 03/11/2005 2:41:42 PM PST by wimpycat (Hyperbole is the opium of the activist wacko.)
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To: MonaMars

Well said!


2,753 posted on 03/11/2005 2:41:42 PM PST by alice_in_bubbaland (We will always remember.We will always be proud.We will always be prepared, so we may always be free)
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To: tiredoflaundry
Does it matter if he is black? Evil knows no color. This is an evil man.

Descriptions tend to be helpful when dealing with at-large murderers, though news outlets(at least here in the happy Pacific Northwest) don't seem to think so.

2,754 posted on 03/11/2005 2:42:11 PM PST by Junior_G
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To: mhking
There's the magic question: "Should a woman be transporting a 6 foot, 200 plus pound suspect?"

And a violent one that had just been caught with a fabricated knife the day before.

And the answer is no, obviously.

2,755 posted on 03/11/2005 2:42:17 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: tiredoflaundry

It matters when the Police put out an APB on this individual. Yes, he is evil, but in order to catch him we all need to know what we're looking for.


2,756 posted on 03/11/2005 2:42:23 PM PST by panaxanax
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To: tiredoflaundry
Does it matter if he is black? Evil knows no color. This is an evil man.

This isn't about race, it's about describing the thug to the public as accurately and descriptively as possible so he can be stopped as soon as possible.

2,757 posted on 03/11/2005 2:42:30 PM PST by jennyjenny
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To: MonaMars
I got to see this up close once at Yankee Stadium in New York about 10 years ago. There was a fracas in the stands behind the third base dugout, and the drunken fan who was the primary troublemaker was so large and powerful that a half-dozen security personnel couldn't subdue him -- he was tossing them around like they were kids, and they were all men. I swear he was largest person I've ever seen up close -- he had to be about 6'5" and 275 pounds, and looked like an enraged Viking with his blond hair.

Correct that last point . . . He was the second-largest person I've ever seen up front. The largest was a security officer who arrived on the scene after the initial attempt to subdue the crazed fan had failed. The "reinforcement" was a black man who was about five inches taller and at least 50 pounds heavier than the unruly "Viking," and he emerged from the tunnel surrounded by other tiny (actually normal-sized) security personnel. It was like a scene from The Lord of the Rings in which a troll from Mordor surrounded by Orcs is brought out to knock down a gate or something. I got the impression that this guy was an emergency reinforcement who was kept underneath the stadium and fed chunks of raw meat and hapless Red Sox fans until he was needed in a particularly desperate situation.

It all ended quickly, but Mr. Viking didn't want to go peacefully. He flailed away at all comers, but he was no match for the new arrival on the scene. The last we saw of him he was being carried out horizontally by a bunch of security guards . . . two guards held each of his legs, and one guard was on each arm. At the rear of the group was the triumphant giant, holding the Viking in a headlock. The giant was so big that his arms completely engulfed the Viking's head, and as the procession disappeared down the tunnel we could only see a small patch of yellow hair on the top of the Viking's head -- I swear it couldn't have been any larger than a quarter.

2,758 posted on 03/11/2005 2:44:36 PM PST by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but lord I'm free.)
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To: retrokitten
"They are both about 11 pounds, but Hello Kitty is very stocky with a short body so she looks chubby. Lucky is some kind of oriental breed and very long and lean."

Hello Kitty sounds just like my 9 month old Cloud; built wide like a bulldog and she's really put it on since we adopted and she doesn't have to battle 30 other kittens for chow. I call her 'Buddha Belly', LOL.

2,759 posted on 03/11/2005 2:45:12 PM PST by IonImplantGuru (Pereant qui ante nos nostra dixerunt. (May they perish who have expressed our bright ideas before us)
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To: Junior_G

Thank you Junior_G


2,760 posted on 03/11/2005 2:45:13 PM PST by panaxanax
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