Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Author states the landing at Iwo Jima was a mistake and unnecessary resulting in the death of 6,000 marines. Just another article to make us feel bad about our history.
1 posted on 03/10/2005 7:10:45 AM PST by rcocean
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies ]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-66 next last
To: rcocean; kdf1; AMERIKA; Lancey Howard; MudPuppy; SMEDLEYBUTLER; opbuzz; Snow Bunny; gitmogrunt; ...
The planners actually thought that Iwo Jima would be lightly defended. Nimitz had no idea that the Japanese had been preparing an elaborate defensive network of caves, bunkers and tunnels. As a result, he failed to allocate enough aircraft or warships to seriously dent the enemy defenses before the infantry landings. This oversight consigned the Marines to what a war correspondent called "a nightmare in hell." And for what?

What an idiot, they said that about every Island, any honest history student of Marine Battles KNOWs theyunderestimated enemy strength on almost every Island.

2 posted on 03/10/2005 7:14:03 AM PST by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: rcocean; RaceBannon

It is a fact that without Iwo Jima, they could not properly conduct air raids over Japan. They needed the runway on that island.


3 posted on 03/10/2005 7:15:16 AM PST by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: rcocean
There is an old saying, "in war, the first thing to die is the truth."

It seems to me that in Peace, the revisonists always want to birth new truth in their own image.

4 posted on 03/10/2005 7:15:44 AM PST by llevrok (The more I know people, the better I like dogs!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: rcocean

"War is a series of calamaties that result in victory."


5 posted on 03/10/2005 7:15:48 AM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: rcocean

I have no respect for the second guesser.


7 posted on 03/10/2005 7:16:17 AM PST by bmwcyle (Washington DC RINO Hunting Guide)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: rcocean

many of the marines that fought across those islands live in cali, I'm sure they'll enjoy his editorial.


8 posted on 03/10/2005 7:17:33 AM PST by wallcrawlr (www.bionicear.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: rcocean

Max should stick to waht he knows best, whining.


10 posted on 03/10/2005 7:18:10 AM PST by pissant
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: rcocean
"Author states the landing at Iwo Jima was a mistake and unnecessary resulting in the death of 6,000 marines. Just another article to make us feel bad about our history."

I happen to agree with the the assessment of the author which in NO way detracts from the heroism and bravery of those who fought at Iwo Jima.

The venture was not remotely "cost effective" in terms of American casualties vs. military benefit.

11 posted on 03/10/2005 7:18:30 AM PST by F16Fighter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: rcocean

Iwo was the last island on the NW approach to the main Japanese islands.


12 posted on 03/10/2005 7:18:35 AM PST by Semper Paratus (:)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: rcocean

Thanks for the post. It reminds me why the LA Times is my least favorite newspaper.


13 posted on 03/10/2005 7:18:51 AM PST by PowerAmp
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: rcocean

Das Max Boot


14 posted on 03/10/2005 7:19:36 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: rcocean

If Ted Kennedy had been in the Senate in 1945, as the author posits, the Japanese and the Germans would have taken great solace from the senator's weak-kneed whining about the progress of American arms in WW2. Happily, the senator was only a little boy in that year.


15 posted on 03/10/2005 7:20:00 AM PST by RexBeach (Keep CHRIST In Christmas - Or I'll Hit You With A Cream Pie!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: rcocean

I didn't read the article (I don't go to the LA Times), but from the first paragraph I thought his point was goint to be that in every war there are serious, and tragic, mistakes that result in many casualties. As a result, all of the attention of supposed errors by our military in taking control of Iraq are irrelevant, and as destructive as it would have been to second-guess Iwo Jima, hold hearings, and otherwise disrupt the military during wartime.


16 posted on 03/10/2005 7:20:01 AM PST by Piranha
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: rcocean
Nimitz had no idea that the Japanese had been preparing an elaborate defensive network of caves, bunkers and tunnels.

Since the primary defense of Iwo Jima relied on the network of caves and interconnecting tunnels, how does the author expect that Nimitz would have known of this defensive strategy? One that had not been used previously (to my knowledge) by the Japanese, and one that would not be detected from aerial recon nor be destroyed by shelling or bombing.

17 posted on 03/10/2005 7:20:08 AM PST by Michael.SF. (Someday I will fondly look back on the day Hillary's career ended. Starting tomorrow, I hope.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: rcocean
Just another article to make us feel bad about our history

From Max Boot, I doubt it.Saying a military operation was a mistake does nothing to subtract from the honor and admiration we have for those who fought.One purpose of military history is to make judgements on military decisions such as Iwo Jima.

The Pacific War is fraught with such decisions. More than Iwo, the decision to take the island of Pelilieu is seen today as having no consequence worth the damage done to the Ist Marine Div in 37 days of combat. If anything, people like Max Boot can force Americans to look far more appreciatively on the decision making qualities of our current military. If sainted figures like Nimitz, Halsey, and MacArthur could make errors in military judgement that cost lives in the thousands, how much criticism can be offered to the decisions made by Rumsfeld, and Franks which saw accomplishments with far lethal cost.

18 posted on 03/10/2005 7:20:28 AM PST by xkaydet65
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: rcocean

Bush's fault.


21 posted on 03/10/2005 7:20:52 AM PST by reagan_fanatic ("Darwinism is a belief in the meaninglessness of existence" - R. Kirk)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: rcocean

Monday morning quarterbacking. bumparooo for later reading.


22 posted on 03/10/2005 7:21:00 AM PST by theDentist (The Dems are putting all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: rcocean

I wonder if the thousands of American Airmen who made emergency landing at Iwo and therefore saved their lives thought it was a mistake.


24 posted on 03/10/2005 7:21:53 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: rcocean

All democrat started wars (WWII, VIETNAM, KOREA, KOSOVO) were run by idiots.


26 posted on 03/10/2005 7:22:29 AM PST by tkathy (Tyranny breeds terrorism. Freedom breeds peace.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: rcocean
This is complete BS. Look at a map of the Pacific. There is not a lot of land out there. What land their was, we wanted a US Flag flying from it. If there was to be an invasion of the Japanese Home Islands, Iwo Jima and Okinawa would have been the crucial staging grounds.

Of course, our use of nuclear weapons made that unnecessary. But I'm sure this author dedicates a column in August to whining about that as well.
28 posted on 03/10/2005 7:24:35 AM PST by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-66 next last

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson