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To: rcocean; kdf1; AMERIKA; Lancey Howard; MudPuppy; SMEDLEYBUTLER; opbuzz; Snow Bunny; gitmogrunt; ...
The planners actually thought that Iwo Jima would be lightly defended. Nimitz had no idea that the Japanese had been preparing an elaborate defensive network of caves, bunkers and tunnels. As a result, he failed to allocate enough aircraft or warships to seriously dent the enemy defenses before the infantry landings. This oversight consigned the Marines to what a war correspondent called "a nightmare in hell." And for what?

What an idiot, they said that about every Island, any honest history student of Marine Battles KNOWs theyunderestimated enemy strength on almost every Island.

2 posted on 03/10/2005 7:14:03 AM PST by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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To: RaceBannon
The planners actually thought that Iwo Jima would be lightly defended. Nimitz had no idea that the Japanese had been preparing an elaborate defensive network of caves, bunkers and tunnels. As a result, he failed to allocate enough aircraft or warships to seriously dent the enemy defenses before the infantry landings. This oversight consigned the Marines to what a war correspondent called "a nightmare in hell." And for what?

This is completely contrary to what I learned about Iwo Jima. As I recall, the island was subjected to a devastating barrage of naval gunfire, but the elaborate tunnel system kept most of the defenders protected.

6 posted on 03/10/2005 7:16:16 AM PST by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: RaceBannon

What did Nimitz know and when did he know it?


9 posted on 03/10/2005 7:18:08 AM PST by ruiner
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To: RaceBannon
More than two months before the actual assault, Iwo Jima was softened up by bombing raids. For the three days prior to the attack, six American battleships launched a continuous barrage on the island.

Very good, detailed article here.

25 posted on 03/10/2005 7:21:57 AM PST by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: RaceBannon

George Washington packed way too many men into that boat on the Delaware. Idiot! What about the Women who suffered at Valley Forge? How about that? And Jesus really didn't feel pain on the Cross because he was God and God can't feel pain and neither can fetuses, but lobsters scream, they feel pain, buddy boy, and my last analyst told me that feeling good is only aboout me. I can't worry too much about others ,. .... .;. ;/. Modern thinker


41 posted on 03/10/2005 7:29:43 AM PST by Pat79thST (Pat79thSt. - Irish arthritis - I get stiff in a different joint every night!)
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To: RaceBannon
"What an idiot, they said that about every Island..."

This writer certainly doesn't know his history. Practically every war has had this type of scenario. During the Civil War, one such incident was Morris Island and Fort Wagner. Union gun ships had bombarded Morris Island and Wagner repeatedly, in an attempt to prepare for an assault. Thinking that their heavy bombardment had depleted the number of Confederates inside the fort, the Union forces stormed Fort Wagner on three separate occasions during July, 1863. Each time they suffered high losses, and never captured the fort. Union forces then turned to digging trenches in an attempt to gain control of Wagner. After a lengthy siege, Confederates evacuated the fort on or about the evening of September 6th, leaving the island in the possession of Northern forces.

84 posted on 03/10/2005 8:01:03 AM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: RaceBannon

And yet, we kicked their a$$es! Ooh-rah, Race!


135 posted on 03/10/2005 9:10:28 AM PST by rabidralph (Gosh!)
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To: RaceBannon

I read somewhere once, and I'm now not sure where, that we knew the battle for Iwo Jima was going to be a major blood letting, and we even considered using poison gas on the Japanese defenders. The only reason gas wasn't used was because we thought we coudn't keep the world from finding out about it.

I've never thought that the sacrifice of 6,000 Marines on Iwo Jima that allowed a few dozen B-29 crews to survive the war was a good trade. The lose of those fine young Marines from our gene pool can really be seen in the American youth of today.


190 posted on 03/10/2005 3:15:59 PM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: RaceBannon

God Bless all those Marines. Those Marines are a large part of the reason that I sleep soundly and safely at night, in a free coutry called America.


198 posted on 03/10/2005 5:17:25 PM PST by JOE43270 (JOE43270 America voted and said we are One Nation Under God with Liberty and Justice for All.)
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Hitler and the whole Axis debacle sorely and gravely underestimated the Allied forces that would sorely, gravely and ultimately grind them into dust and consign them to the ash heap of history.


243 posted on 03/10/2005 8:34:54 PM PST by Twinkie ( I'm testing to see how many people read taglines. So far, at least two smarties.)
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To: RaceBannon

I have always had serious reservations about Tarawa,but Iwo Jima provided a"safety net"for air-crews whose planes were damaged bombing Japan from The Marianas.The figure is something like 20,000 that(if we had not taken Iwo Jima)would have been forced to ditch at sea.


252 posted on 03/11/2005 4:49:11 AM PST by bandleader
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To: RaceBannon

I wonder if he would say that at LA times about Stalingrad


294 posted on 03/12/2005 1:49:26 AM PST by JudgemAll (Condemn me, make me naked and kill me, or be silent for ever on my gun ownership and law enforcement)
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