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Political road rage [another deluded lib loses it over Bush/Cheney bumper sticker]
TampaBay's10.com ^ | 3/9/05 | De Anna Sheffield

Posted on 03/09/2005 4:21:07 PM PST by dukeman

South Tampa, Florida - On Tuesday evening, Michelle Fernandez was driving down Armenia in South Tampa with her two children in the car, when another driver tried to run her off the road. The man had a sign over his passenger window that said 'Never forget Bush's illegal oil war murdered thousands in Iraq.'

Fernandez has a Bush/Cheney bumper sticker on her car. Fernandez called police from her cell phone when the driver began yelling, blowing his horn, and following her.

9-1-1 Dispatch
Dispatch: Where are you on Kennedy?

Caller: Right now I'm on Kennedy and Arrawana. Look, he just pulled over next to me, he's stopping the car, it's ridiculous this man! Look he's running after my car, Oh my goodness, he's a fanatic, he's in the middle of the street!

For nine minutes Fernandez stayed on the phone with dispatchers, turning on busy streets, hoping to lose the other driver. The dispatcher heard a horn honking in the background.

Dispatch: Is that him blowing his horn at you?

Caller: No I was blowing my horn at somebody 'cause I'm running stoplights and everything else to get away from him.

Fernandez was finally able to throw the driver off her trail. She ended up going to a near-by little league ball park and waited for police to file a report. They arrested Nathan Winkler at his home. They found the sign in the car.

Joe Durkin, Tampa Police spokesperson
"When we contacted him, his indication to the officers of why he was upset, was because he says 'the victim flipped him off, and that's why I pursued her.' But this is taking political views to an extreme."

Winkler is now charged with aggravated stalking/road rage, which carries a five year sentence.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: liblosers; pest; roadrage
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To: dukeman

another peacnik trying to kill someone to stop violence.


61 posted on 03/09/2005 5:32:26 PM PST by bigsigh
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To: RoseofTexas

Wouldn't it be nice if they charged him with attempted vehicular homicide!!


62 posted on 03/09/2005 5:37:25 PM PST by trussell (I Never Frown, even when I am sad, because I never know who is falling in love with my Smile!!!)
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To: MIgramma
He went off on me so badly that the girl behind me grabbed her little boy like the guy was gonna go "postal".

These people also can be armed with blade weapons or firearms. A little incident can go the way of the old west, these days. It's Dodge City, out there. And the store manager was negligent. He should have immediately stopped the man, ordered him to leave, and particularly as he was recognized from previous and similar incidents. Otherwise, I don't want to hear anyone complaining about people 'taking the law'. If all just stand around twidling, someone has to intervene. Frankly, and to be clear, it really doesn't necessarily even take a 'gym' build to command respect, just an attitude (but not one put-on, that's spotted right off). Have pride in yourself, in a good way, and you can intervene on others behalf, as well.

63 posted on 03/09/2005 5:40:12 PM PST by sevry
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To: cmsgop

Liberalism is a mental illness


64 posted on 03/09/2005 5:44:05 PM PST by STD (Last Action Hero)
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To: MIgramma
He went off on me so badly that the girl behind me grabbed her little boy like the guy was gonna go "postal".

I'll admit it, I have been known to mess with some liberals head with jokes.

Everything from saying I own stock in Haliburton and the Carlye group to claiming my job is to work for Dybold the company that makes the voting machines.

Some of them actually believe it, and start almost spasming.

To really tick them off, tell them you want them to watch F 9/11, when asked why, tell them, that a portion of the movies profits go to the GOP, it bugs there fragile little paranoid minds out.

65 posted on 03/09/2005 5:44:45 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: dukeman

"For nine minutes Fernandez stayed on the phone with dispatchers, turning on busy streets, hoping to lose the other driver. "

Nine minutes and police could not get there,


66 posted on 03/09/2005 5:45:33 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (When you compromise with evil, evil wins. AYN RAND)
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To: SandRat

You mean Al Bundy. Ted Bundy wasn't nearly as funny.


67 posted on 03/09/2005 5:46:29 PM PST by Gumption
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To: dukeman
After the death of President Reagan I bought a tee shirt that had the famous Reagan quotes "Republicans think every day is the fourth of July", "Democrats believe every day is April 15th. Well, all I could tell you is that on the first day I wore the shirt, I was confronted by an angry Democrat in a supermarket in Tarrytown N.Y. who said he was offended by the shirt and threatened to rip it off my back. After I reassured him that that wouldn't be possible, this jerk verbally abused my elderly mother and I until we left the store. I had a second incident with the same shirt a few later in a local deli. Up until then I thought Democrats and Liberals were just misguided misinformed people. It was these incidents that convinced me that they were diseases of the mind.
68 posted on 03/09/2005 5:48:17 PM PST by Wiggins
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To: SandRat

i tried to join 20 years ago and wasn't callased enough,
now after doubling Al's 16 years of marrige this comeing thursday i just may be seasoned enough to be granted a charter membership and or at least be grandfathered in. LOL.


69 posted on 03/09/2005 5:52:50 PM PST by 537cant be wrong (no kittie! thats my pot pie!)
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To: dukeman
I'm surprised there are libs on the west side of Floriduh. If it happened in Palm Beach, that's a whole nother story.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
70 posted on 03/09/2005 5:58:17 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: demkicker

(Now I'm curious what Houston mall that was!) I had a "Four more years and loving it" inauguration sticker taped to the rear window of my SUV but figured it was out of date. Just changed to a "Proud Member of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy", which should annoy all those drivers around here who (judging from their stickers) actually believe that there really IS a right wing conspiracy!


71 posted on 03/09/2005 6:03:27 PM PST by Moonmad27
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To: Gumption

Yeah Al Bundy Peg's husband.


72 posted on 03/09/2005 6:10:07 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: 537cant be wrong

Still can't seem to get them to send my official T-Shirt though.


73 posted on 03/09/2005 6:11:39 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: dukeman

Karl Rove's secret plan to disenfranchise angry dems.


74 posted on 03/09/2005 6:12:20 PM PST by listenhillary (My tagline died, memorials may be made to me via Paypal)
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To: RoseofTexas; Moonmad27; marktwain
Why didn't you report it immediate to Officers at the mall? They have camera in the parking lot, perhaps the criminal was caught on tape!

Actually, my son and I had driven out to the Katy Mills Mall for some Christmas shopping, which is a HUGE mall on the outskirts of Houston. Because we got into my Tahoe Z71 that night and drove off after shopping, we didn't even notice the huge dent until the next morning.

I know it happened in the parking lot because we made no more stops, but we had to force ourselves to get over it and move on. Like I said, it was a small price of political outrage to suffer for the greater good!
75 posted on 03/09/2005 6:22:29 PM PST by demkicker (John McCain is a power hungry traitor and proved it on 2/19/05 in Iraq)
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To: RoseofTexas; Moonmad27; marktwain
Why didn't you report it immediate to Officers at the mall? They have camera in the parking lot, perhaps the criminal was caught on tape!

Actually, my son and I had driven out to the Katy Mills Mall for some Christmas shopping, which is a HUGE mall on the outskirts of Houston. Because we got into my Tahoe Z71 that night and drove off after shopping, we didn't even notice the huge dent until the next morning.

I know it happened in the parking lot because we made no more stops, but we had to force ourselves to get over it and move on. Like I said, it was a small price of political outrage to suffer for the greater good!
76 posted on 03/09/2005 6:22:30 PM PST by demkicker (John McCain is a power hungry traitor and proved it on 2/19/05 in Iraq)
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To: Wiggins
It was these incidents that convinced me that they were diseases of the mind.

I think it's more insidious than that. I think leftists, Democrats included, are spiritually degenerate and many have been handed over by God to reprobate minds.

You can't be born again and also believe that you have the right to steal, even with the force of the State, the productive value generated by others minds and bodies.

Thou Shalt Not Steal.

77 posted on 03/09/2005 6:28:33 PM PST by Lester Moore (Islam's Allah is Satan and is NOT the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.)
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To: Lester Moore
I think it's more insidious than that. I think leftists, Democrats included, are spiritually degenerate and many have been handed over by God to reprobate minds

I lurk over on DU quite a bit (yes, I'm sick). They've been struggling mighily since the election to get a grip on what faith is all about. Lately, I've been monitoring a monster thread there which launches off on the premise that religious faith, and particularly evangelical Christianity, is a mental disorder. They have no answers. To them, as Paul wrote, it really is the "foolishness of the gospel."

78 posted on 03/09/2005 9:42:15 PM PST by dukeman
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To: Lester Moore
I think it's more insidious than that. I think leftists, Democrats included, are spiritually degenerate and many have been handed over by God to reprobate minds

I lurk over on DU quite a bit (yes, I'm sick). They've been struggling mighily since the election to get a grip on what faith is all about. Lately, I've been monitoring a monster thread there which launches off on the premise that religious faith, and particularly evangelical Christianity, is a mental disorder. They have no answers. To them, as Paul wrote, it really is the "foolishness of the gospel."

79 posted on 03/09/2005 9:42:15 PM PST by dukeman
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To: RoseofTexas

I think the time this guy gets for his crime is going to depend upon any prior record with the cops. Maybe he has a history of these rage-type crimes.


80 posted on 03/10/2005 6:47:57 AM PST by dukeman
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