Posted on 03/08/2005 8:09:24 AM PST by Howlin
Removing fluid from chest!
I am duly chastised by your rapier wit and depth of reasoning and character. (HA!)
btw......making things up for the sake of buffering your argument is called 'lying'...... NOT 'opinion.' And you just fabricated that accusation out of whole cloth.
"Fluid from the chest cavity is congestive heart failure."
No, it isn't. Fluid in the chest cavity is pleural effusion. It might be CAUSED by CHF, but more likely is caused by infection or lung diseases. This is treated surgically.
Congestive heart failure more often causes fluid build up INSIDE the lungs and is treated medically.
Yep, same with hollywood. The only thing that surprises me with regards to them is how quickly they go down after doing everything they possibly can and then at such young ages they ask the same question: "Is that all there is?" I say to them: "Yep, that's all there is because you did it all so fast, so often and so badly..now all you have left is yourself 'cause the shallow characters you thought were your friends were not and...are not there now to help you....not now when your money is all gone and you are no longer in the spotlight. You are a has been and they are off hanging onto the coattails of a new "star." What a life...guess if I lived that way I'd ask the same question. :)
my dad had congestive heart failure a month or so before he died and they removed it surgically.
by it, i mean the large amount of fluid.
not true, his non-being there when she runs is in her best interest. she does not want his albatross hanging around her neck. i would not be surprised if she is ............
You're preaching to the choir here with me cub, but that's ok - was a good preach. :o)
I just lost an angel of a 12 year old niece to bone cancer last week. I can't get excited about Clinton who is playing 18 rounds of golf tomorrow.
In any case - God's Will be done.
It gave me the image of spreading something on the linoleum amongst candles and pentagrams.
CHF usually causes a build up of fluid INSIDE the lungs. There is no way to remove that surgically. It can also cause edema (swelling) in the extremities, which also cannot be removed surgically.
Sometimes it causes fluid buildup in the abdomen, and that CAN be sucked out.
Most fluid buildup AROUND the lung is caused by infection or injury. Occasionaly this can be caused by CHF but not usually. And then surgery only removes the effect (the fluid) not the cause (CHF).
CHF usually causes a build up of fluid INSIDE the lungs. There is no way to remove that surgically. It can also cause edema (swelling) in the extremities, which also cannot be removed surgically.
Sometimes it causes fluid buildup in the abdomen, and that CAN be sucked out.
Most fluid buildup AROUND the lung is caused by infection or injury. Occasionaly this can be caused by CHF but not usually. And then surgery only removes the effect (the fluid) not the cause (CHF).
Oh, am so sorry. How sad that must be for all of you. 12 years old with her whole beautiful life ahead. Makes ya wonder sometimes, doesn't it? At any rate, I will pray for the soul of your niece and...for you and her parents and all those grieving the loss of their beloved young daughter. Truly my heart goes out for them. God bless you all.
i'm a lawyer not a doctor, all i know is my personal experience. they didn't know it at the time but my father's prostate cancer had metastized, and they operated on him and removed the equivalent of several liter bottles of fluid from around his heart. i was told he had congestive heart failure. i can't recall offhand the medical terminology but there was an incision made in his chest.
Physician freepers, this is not a good sign at ALL for someone who's recently gone through heart surgery, correct?
MM
Ya know how Ronald Reagan joked with Dr's "I sure hope that you're all Republicans"
Herr Schlickmeister should crack a joke, "Gosh, I sure hope that y'all don't work for my wife."
I DO believe there's gnat on this thread...
Ditto that, Lisa!
I just finished watching "Rules of Engagement-Waco". It still deeply affects me when I watch it. I watched real time as our government under Clinton and Reno, killed 76 people and burned alive 26 children under 12. It was the evidence that the unrestrained force of a government was capable of atrocities, which our founders tried to codify in the Bill of Rights, tried to warn and protect us from. This country should never forget this. It is the legacy of Clinton/Reno and is much an outgrowth of influence which Hillary Clinton had. That day, I watched the news as the compound was burned to ground by my government. 35 knot winds stoked the inferno. The ashes were still smoldering when Clinton bulldozed the crime scene. I will let the Lord judge Clinton,Reno, the ATG and FBI principles, but I cannot give those people a pass for burning alive 26 babies. It was so unnecessary. The unregenerate heart is deceitful and desperately wicked, who can know it?
(Do you stay awake at nights thinking of these clever things, or did you just come up with this off the top of your little head? LOL!)
Well....at least you didn't lie this time. You're improving, I think...........from false accusations to utter stupidity.....
Clinton looks so awful, he's in his 50's and Bush Sr. is 80 and Clinton didn't look too much younger standing by him today!
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