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To: Godzilla; Myrddin
Thanks for the info Godzilla. Much appreciated. You are a true asset to TM!

The one missing employee was my basis for suspecting sabotage. Seeing as how this unfortunate person turned out to be one of the casualties, maybe this was just another horrible accident.

Myrddin wrote:
>> I don't think we have built a new refinery in 25 years (in the US). <<

You know, we should stop thinking of these accidents as accidents. Every time one of these plants goes boom it is due to the environmentalists stopping new refineries from being built. These old plants are running at 100% capacity 24/7 to try to meed current demand. This the perfect setting for these accidents.

These environmentalists SAY they are all about caring. I think not. If they are all about caring they would want more plants to ensure the safety of the workers. I keep forgetting these folks can't think straight. Too much college indoctrination...er...education.

We should start building more refineries, many more. Enough to EXCEED future demand so if a few plants are taken out we can still meet our needs.

My $0.02
2,786 posted on 03/29/2005 2:57:02 PM PST by appalachian_dweller (Mark 13:7 - And when ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars, be ye not troubled)
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To: appalachian_dweller
The one missing employee was my basis for suspecting sabotage. Seeing as how this unfortunate person turned out to be one of the casualties, maybe this was just another horrible accident.

My thoughts too. However, with all the attention focused on Texas City by UI individuals we are not out of the woods yet.

These old plants are running at 100% capacity 24/7 to try to meed current demand. This the perfect setting for these accidents.

Here in CA, if a plant goes down for unscheduled maintenance, gas shoots up 10 cents. Now there is a considerable amount of gasoline being IMPORTED because we do not have the refining capacity anymore.

2,787 posted on 03/29/2005 3:17:13 PM PST by Godzilla ( Chaos, panic, and disorder .... my work here is done.)
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To: appalachian_dweller
Intelligent managers never run resources at 100% capacity. You always need enough reserve to take some of the resources down for maintenance while providing a satisfactory level of service. That true for people and equipment.

We are running refineries at 100% to provide a satisfactory level of service. As you pointed out, there is no time for maintenance of very old plants. It is a safety hazard. It is also an easy target to do economic damage. There is no margin for loss of production.

2,793 posted on 03/29/2005 5:00:00 PM PST by Myrddin
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