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Missile Counter-Attack: Axworthy [fmr. Canadian Foreign Minister] fires back at U.S.
Winnipeg Free Press ^ | 03/03/05 | Lloyd Axworthy

Posted on 03/04/2005 2:47:37 PM PST by bourbon

Missile Counter-Attack

Axworthy fires back at U.S. -- and Canadian -- critics of our BMD decision in An Open Letter to U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice

Thu Mar 3 2005

By LLOYD AXWORTHY

Dear Condi,

I'm glad you've decided to get over your fit of pique and venture north to visit your closest neighbour. It's a chance to learn a thing or two. Maybe more.

I know it seems improbable to your divinely guided master in the White House that mere mortals might disagree with participating in a missile-defence system that has failed in its last three tests, even though the tests themselves were carefully rigged to show results.

But, gosh, we folks above the 49th parallel are somewhat cautious types who can't quite see laying down billions of dollars in a three-dud poker game.

As our erstwhile Prairie-born and bred (and therefore prudent) finance minister pointed out in presenting his recent budget, we've had eight years of balanced or surplus financial accounts. If we're going to spend money, Mr. Goodale added, it will be on day-care and health programs, and even on more foreign aid and improved defence.

Sure, that doesn't match the gargantuan, multi-billion-dollar deficits that your government blithely runs up fighting a "liberation war" in Iraq, laying out more than half of all weapons expenditures in the world, and giving massive tax breaks to the top one per cent of your population while cutting food programs for poor children. Just chalk that up to a different sense of priorities about what a national government's role should be when there isn't a prevailing mood of manifest destiny.

Coming to Ottawa might also expose you to a parliamentary system that has a thing called question period every day, where those in the executive are held accountable by an opposition for their actions, and where demands for public debate on important topics such as missile defence can be made openly.

You might also notice that it's a system in which the governing party's caucus members are not afraid to tell their leader that their constituents don't want to follow the ideological, perhaps teleological, fantasies of Canada's continental co-inhabitant. And that this leader actually listens to such representations.

Your boss did not avail himself of a similar opportunity to visit our House of Commons during his visit, fearing, it seems, that there might be some signs of dissent. He preferred to issue his diktat on missile defence in front of a highly controlled, pre-selected audience.

Such control-freak antics may work in the virtual one-party state that now prevails in Washington. But in Canada we have a residual belief that politicians should be subject to a few checks and balances, an idea that your country once espoused before the days of empire.

If you want to have us consider your proposals and positions, present them in a proper way, through serious discussion across the table in our cabinet room, as your previous president did when he visited Ottawa. And don't embarrass our prime minister by lobbing a verbal missile at him while he sits on a public stage, with no chance to respond. Now, I understand that there may have been some miscalculations in Washington based on faulty advice from your resident governor of the "northern territories," Ambassador Cellucci. But you should know by now that he hasn't really won the hearts and minds of most Canadians through his attempts to browbeat and command our allegiance to U.S. policies.

Sadly, Mr. Cellucci has been far too closeted with exclusive groups of 'experts' from Calgary think-tanks and neo-con lobbyists at cross-border conferences to remotely grasp a cross-section of Canadian attitudes (nor American ones, for that matter).

I invite you to expand the narrow perspective that seems to inform your opinions of Canada by ranging far wider in your reach of contacts and discussions. You would find that what is rising in Canada is not so much anti-Americanism, as claimed by your and our right-wing commentators, but fundamental disagreements with certain policies of your government. You would see that rather than just reacting to events by drawing on old conventional wisdoms, many Canadians are trying to think our way through to some ideas that can be helpful in building a more secure world.

These Canadians believe that security can be achieved through well-modulated efforts to protect the rights of people, not just nation-states.

To encourage and advance international co-operation on managing the risk of climate change, they believe that we need agreements like Kyoto.

To protect people against international crimes like genocide and ethnic cleansing, they support new institutions like the International Criminal Court -- which, by the way, you might strongly consider using to hold accountable those committing atrocities today in Darfur, Sudan.

And these Canadians believe that the United Nations should indeed be reformed -- beginning with an agreement to get rid of the veto held by the major powers over humanitarian interventions to stop violence and predatory practices.

On this score, you might want to explore the concept of the 'Responsibility to Protect' while you're in Ottawa. It's a Canadian idea born out of the recent experience of Kosovo and informed by the many horrific examples of inhumanity over the last half-century. Many Canadians feel it has a lot more relevance to providing real human security in the world than missile defence ever will.

This is not just some quirky notion concocted in our long winter nights, by the way. It seems to have appeal for many in your own country, if not the editorialists at the Wall Street Journal or Rush Limbaugh. As I discovered recently while giving a series of lectures in southern California, there is keen interest in how the U.S. can offer real leadership in managing global challenges of disease, natural calamities and conflict, other than by military means. There is also a very strong awareness on both sides of the border of how vital Canada is to the U.S. as a partner in North America. We supply copious amounts of oil and natural gas to your country, our respective trade is the world's largest in volume, and we are increasingly bound together by common concerns over depletion of resources, especially very scarce fresh water.

Why not discuss these issues with Canadians who understand them, and seek out ways to better cooperate in areas where we agree -- and agree to respect each other's views when we disagree.

Above all, ignore the Cassandras who deride the state of our relations because of one missile-defence decision. Accept that, as a friend on your border, we will offer a different, independent point of view. And that there are times when truth must speak to power.

In friendship,

Lloyd Axworthy

Lloyd Axworthy is president of the University of Winnipeg and a former Canadian foreign minister.


TOPICS: Canada; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: axworthy; bush; canada; condi; condoleezza; lloyd; missiledefense; rice
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To: IrishCatholic
Don't forget the NYPD is larger than the Canadian Military... LITERALLY (manpower)
41 posted on 03/04/2005 4:07:40 PM PST by FreedomNeocon (2)
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To: bourbon

Thesde Canuckistani tinkerbells can really get snippy, can't they?


42 posted on 03/04/2005 4:07:54 PM PST by Tacis ("John ("What SF-180?") Kerry - Still Shilling For Those Who Would Harm America!")
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To: headsonpikes
Thanks for pulling me out of the "credibility gap." I don't know how I fell into that on FR (I've never posted parodies under news/activism), but anyway...thanks!
43 posted on 03/04/2005 4:08:42 PM PST by bourbon
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To: headsonpikes

Dear Mr. Axworthy,

As a Canadian, I'm sick and tired of lefties like you trying to "remove the speck from the eye of somebody" without removing the "huge log from yours". Because of naive liberals like you, our country is no longer able to defend ourselves and have to now rely on our neighbour, the United States to protect us from danger. Of course you will probably come up with a lame statement such as "no country would want to attack us" but the fact is Osama bin Laden named Canada with a list of countries who he sees as his enemies, in a video not long ago, and so far from that list only Italy and Canada have not been attacked personally yet. I hear you whine about our sovereignty but guess who is causing us to lose it, you and Mister Dithers. You caused us to lose our soveignty become defenceless against any threat. Take a look at the arctic, Denmark has made claims to territory belonging to us thanks to you and liberal government cronies. My question is to you. How many Canadians should lose their lives on our soil due to terrorism, 100, 1000, 4000, before you liberals wake up and smell the fresh coffee?

youngtory

P.S. Quit living in the pre 9/11 world and wake up to reality.


45 posted on 03/04/2005 4:10:28 PM PST by youngtory (Rights are rights are rights. Just like a proof is a proof is a proof.-Liberal dorks.)
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To: bourbon

He's a liberal in a huff, so the leftist Canadian MSM prints it. No more needs to be said ... it's not worth the read.


46 posted on 03/04/2005 4:12:23 PM PST by NorthOf45
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To: beaver fever

Read the post again. Read it slowly. Think about it. Was it a post advocating the confiscation of a socialist utopia? Or was it an indication of the lack of reasoning by the marxist university head that wrote the letter? Was it saying make Canada the 51st state, or was it saying that if America was all that bad wouldn't we have done it already. Take a government issued chill pill. The whole post was about one guy being a jerk, not trade relations and the importance of NAFTA.


47 posted on 03/04/2005 4:12:34 PM PST by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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To: bourbon

Email sent ;)


48 posted on 03/04/2005 4:15:44 PM PST by FreedomNeocon (2)
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To: bourbon
Thanks for the bio. The Internet is a wonderful things when it comes to unearthing useless minutiae such as the moulting periods of Asian butterflies and the signal accomplishments of Dr. Axworthy's tenure in government. Well, presumably the butterflies might dissent.

I note our hero has referred to Kosovo as if the resolution of that issue was to be found in some high-level conference or strongly-worded diplomatic note. It was not. Nothing during his tenure was a more perfect illustration of the mind-numbing, arrogant impotence of the multilateral approach to such tragedies as Kosovo - well, cancel that, there was, I suppose, Rwanda as well, at whose murderers I am certain that Axworthy shook a positively magisterial finger. If they'd possessed boots they'd have been trembling in them.

Dr. Rice will do well not to throttle this simpering fool on sight.

49 posted on 03/04/2005 4:18:08 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: beaver fever; headsonpikes
This knee jerk uninformed talk about annexing or invading Canada is extremely tiresome and counter productive.

BF, I agree. I'd also like to see the US and Canada play fair on trade issues. I dislike the Bush administration's occasional tendencies towards protectionism.

However, I am dubious about your theory that the Martin government would have cooperated in MD but for our trade practices. While I might not read as much of the Canadian press as you, I have not seen any commentators (even Canadian ones) suggest such a linkage.

Furthermore, even if your theory about the Martin government's motivations is correct, the decision not to opt-in to our MD program still doesn't make sense for Canada, because MD greatly enhances Canadian security at little or no costs to Canadians.

To some degree, Canadians and Americans have always been at loggerheads about trade, but that's b/c international trade is a competitive environment, even among allies. OTOH, Canadians and Americans have traditionally (and wisely!) been united with respect to issues of collective security. Paul Martin and his cronies are stupid to jeopardize a powerful, mutually beneficial security relationship over this.

50 posted on 03/04/2005 4:23:47 PM PST by bourbon
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To: bourbon

"Paul Martin and his cronies are stupid to jeopardize a powerful, mutually beneficial security relationship over this."

Yes, I agree.


51 posted on 03/04/2005 4:25:05 PM PST by youngtory (Rights are rights are rights. Just like a proof is a proof is a proof.-Liberal dorks.)
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To: bourbon
And that there are times when truth must speak to power.

I keep hearing this phrase, or some variation thereof, usually spoken by leftists. Does anyone here know where it originates?
52 posted on 03/04/2005 4:25:45 PM PST by Logophile
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To: FreedomNeocon
At one time, there were more ships in the British Columbia ferry system than the total Canadian navy.
53 posted on 03/04/2005 4:26:52 PM PST by llevrok (Don't blame me! I voted for Pedro.)
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To: onyx; wardaddy; Squantos; Travis McGee; nopardons; Southack; Trinity_Tx; goldstategop

Must-read ping.

Please ping others.


54 posted on 03/04/2005 4:27:08 PM PST by bourbon
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To: bourbon

The bogus Canadian identity foisted upon the country by Trudeau and his successors requires, like Orwell's fictional dystopias in '1984', an external enemy.

America is that enemy for all loyal Party members.


55 posted on 03/04/2005 4:30:09 PM PST by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: IrishCatholic
It must be nice to advocate invading Canada and expropriating our resources and come back and say you were just speaking hypothetically.

I quoted you in my post. Go back and read it yourself. You wrote it. This invade/annex meme is a common feature on these MD threads.

I suggested a solution. Why don't you comment on that?

I also noticed the 'we don't need anything from Canada' meme has popped up again.

Canada the third largest supplier of oil to the US behind Saudi Arabia and Venezuela. Which of those three sources is the most secure. Plus Canadian heavy oil reserves are larger than Saudi reserves and they have only been in production for ten years.

So you don't need anything from Canada eh?
56 posted on 03/04/2005 4:32:10 PM PST by beaver fever
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To: bourbon

Must read?! It's just the Canadian liberals. That's like saying that your drug-addled cousin in college is someone to whom you "must listen."

57 posted on 03/04/2005 4:37:31 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: bourbon
"However, I am dubious about your theory that the Martin government would have cooperated in MD but for our trade practices."

Martin built Canada Steamship Lines, one of the World's largest internationally flagged bulk carrier fleets with his bare hands when he was thirty years old.

He's a Capitalist regardless of his party affiliation. As Finance Minister who was the budget hawk who eliminated the deficit and put us on the road to six consecutive budget surpluses. He did that during the Gingrich congress when the Balance Budget Amendment was all the rage.

Take my word for it, if President Bush acted on trade restrictions Martin would have a product he could sell to the Canadian people and I assure you he is an excellence salesman.
58 posted on 03/04/2005 4:42:21 PM PST by beaver fever
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To: bourbon; Dog Gone

I was so stunned at the supercilious tone, I scrolled up twice to check the source, expecting it to be a parody.

I'll comment later on the content. I need to collect myself after being so offended at his gall.

This is the US Secretary of State he's speaking to, as though she were some undergrad co-ed. Unacceptable.


59 posted on 03/04/2005 4:50:44 PM PST by Trinity_Tx (Most of our so-called reasoning consists in finding arguments for going on believin as we already do)
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To: beaver fever
"So you don't need anything from Canada eh?"

Now that SCTV's no more, wellll, hmmm...




/TIC
60 posted on 03/04/2005 4:54:19 PM PST by Trinity_Tx (Most of our so-called reasoning consists in finding arguments for going on believin as we already do)
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