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Philippines: military relations with China do not conflict with any third country
news.xinhuanet.com ^ | 2005-03-03 21:07:22 | Xinhuanet

Posted on 03/03/2005 7:13:20 AM PST by Destro

Philippines: military relations with China do not conflict with any third country

www.chinaview.cn 2005-03-03 21:07:22

MANILA, March 3 (Xinhuanet) -- The Philippine military said Thursday that developing military relations with China does not conflict with the interests of any third country.

Armed Forces Civil Relations Service Chief (CRS) and concurrentspokesperson Brigadier General Jose Angel Honrado told the media that "an increased military relationship with China" does not meanthat relations with the United States "have turned sour."

He noted aside from the Philippines, other member-states of theAssociation of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) are also maintaining good ties with China.

"I don't see any conflict with the US or any other country in so far as our dealings with China is concerned," Honrado said.

Honrado also confirmed that China has committed around 1.2 million US dollars of assistance to the Philippine military.

"What they are offering is military aid. Most of it will be used in procurement of engineering equipment," he said.

The spokesman did not rule out the possibility of joint military exercises with China, although not in the immediate future.

"It is not yet in the drawing board," Honrado replied when asked of joint military training. "But we are exploring all cooperative agreements with them." Enditem


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: china; geopolitics; philippines; southeastasia
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To: vbmoneyspender

Really? NATO as the Delian League? Anyone?


21 posted on 03/03/2005 9:29:58 AM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Destro

Have you read the Melian Dialogue? If you can cite any example where the United States acted the way the Athenians did with the Melians, then I will concede that you are right and that we are an empire.


22 posted on 03/03/2005 9:37:45 AM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: vbmoneyspender

Kosovo!


23 posted on 03/03/2005 9:46:55 AM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Dr. Marten

Wern't those the Spratly Islands that China has recently claimed as their own?


24 posted on 03/03/2005 9:51:30 AM PST by printhead
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To: Destro
"Siege operations were now carried on vigorously and, as there was also some treachery from insde, the Melians surrendered unconditionally to the Athenians, who put to death all the men of military age whome they took, and sold the women and children as slaves. Melos itself they took over for themselves, sending out later a colony of 500 men."

I guess I missed the part in Kosovo where we put all of the men to death and sold the women and children into slavery and then sent out colonists to take over all of the territory of Kosovo.

25 posted on 03/03/2005 10:00:40 AM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: Destro
Honrado also confirmed that China has committed around 1.2 million US dollars of assistance to the Philippine military.

Wow. Cheap date...

26 posted on 03/03/2005 10:03:33 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Freedom. Brought to you by the grace of God and the Red, White and Blue...)
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To: vbmoneyspender
See what happened to the Serbs....

Also you are in error in trying to use history in this manner - it does not have to be exact - just a parallel.

27 posted on 03/03/2005 10:16:11 AM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Destro
it does not have to be exact - just a parallel

Which translates into you're going to misinterpret history and there's nothing anybody can do about it.

Well ok then.

28 posted on 03/03/2005 4:36:15 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: Destro

$1.2 million dollars will buy... 24 used humvees.

Must... resist... laughing...

Sorry but the Chinese are just way too cheap with their "aid".


29 posted on 03/03/2005 5:51:07 PM PST by s_asher
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To: Hoplite

You can only use history if it repeats itself exactly? You are wrong on this one.


30 posted on 03/03/2005 6:05:26 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Destro
Not what I said, is it.

What I'm saying is that there is more differentiating our circumstances and actions with that of any of the protagonists in the Peloponnesian War experience to make any comparisons worthless as far as drawing any substantiative lessons.

Who takes the place of Persia? What force is analogous to the Spartan Army, running amok in Kansas and Iowa and devastating our breadbasket? Who are our subservient allies, beholden to us to do our bidding?

The whole "Imperial America" argument is stillborn from the getgo - tendentious analogies to Athens notwithstanding. A simple look at who's done what as far as answering the "Imperial" call to arms in Iraq should have been enough to make you shy of this argument, Destro, but you succumbed to the "Serbs as Melians - eternal victims" nonsense and lack the commonsense to cut your losses on this one.

31 posted on 03/03/2005 8:14:34 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite

Persia? USSR - any outside enemy that united the nations in alliance.


32 posted on 03/03/2005 10:39:01 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: printhead

Yep.


33 posted on 03/03/2005 11:06:10 PM PST by Dr. Marten (gei wo ziyou, haishi gei wo si wan!)
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To: Destro
Um, if the USSR was Persia, who was Sparta to our Athens?

Silly response on your part, wasn't it.

34 posted on 03/04/2005 8:35:22 AM PST by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite
China? EU? (our ally against Persia/USSR)

The important thing about this example is that once the common enemy of Persia/USSR ended and the Eastern states were freed from the "evil empire" there is a falling out amongst former allies - which in several generations down the line creates a conflict between the two.

If you remember Thucydides' words - What was his analysis for the reason Sparta went to war with Athens?

35 posted on 03/04/2005 8:44:29 AM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Destro
The analogy doesn't hold up, Destro.

Quit trying to reinforce failure.

36 posted on 03/04/2005 8:57:42 AM PST by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite

It does hold up - and I am not the forst to have made it either.


37 posted on 03/04/2005 9:11:01 AM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Pyro7480

Japan had the Philippines for lunch once, now it is China's turn.


38 posted on 03/04/2005 9:13:24 AM PST by cynicom (<p)
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