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CNN: US SUPREME COURT: ALL DEATH PENALTY CASES WITH JUVENILE KILLERS THROWN OUT!
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Posted on 03/01/2005 7:21:16 AM PST by Next_Time_NJ
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To: Next_Time_NJ
"Women with illegitimate children hit hardest!" /sarcasm
441
posted on
03/01/2005 9:05:18 AM PST
by
Diana in Wisconsin
(Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
To: Next_Time_NJ
The adult criminal now have a large pool of people to draw from to do their bidding.
442
posted on
03/01/2005 9:06:30 AM PST
by
mware
To: jwalsh07
I do not even get this. Since when is OUR(the US) court suppose to be using an international treaty to base their decision?.
I thought they were suppose to use the US Constitution!
This is scary . I had no idea this is what SCOTUS has been doing.
And to beat it all the treaty listed in this decision is not ratified.
Speechless.
To: jwalsh07
Blah, Blah when you have no answer? LOL
444
posted on
03/01/2005 9:07:11 AM PST
by
Protagoras
(" I believe that's the role of the federal government, to help people"...GWB, 7-23-04)
To: Next_Time_NJ
Thats my point.. They arent ready yet.. They dont have the brains to do it. Thats MAJOR bullshit.
You pull the trigger, carve someone else up like a pig, or rape and murder someone....you got the brains and intent to do it.
445
posted on
03/01/2005 9:08:03 AM PST
by
BureaucratusMaximus
("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" - Hillary Clinton)
To: Next_Time_NJ
To be honest I am totally pro life, although I admit I struggle when the victim of a crime is a child.
If life really meant life I would have no problem with getting rid of the death penalty.
446
posted on
03/01/2005 9:08:22 AM PST
by
mware
To: Modernman
An environment where some miscreant receives some degree of creature comforts after conviction for heinous crimes is not a "calm, impartial legal system," but rather one that fails to punish convicted criminals out of concern for their "civil rights," which should have been forfeited upon their conviction and sentence. The victim receives no compensation for the injuries or property lost. In many cases, the victim will be sorting out his problems over his lifetime even as the criminal can build his strength through decent food and exercise and perhaps improve his "job skills" through learning from other criminals. After his sentence is complete, the released felon can return to preying on society.
This nation was far better off when physically fit convicts were required to do hard labor on road crews, construction sites, and farms. Up until the 1960s, the Texas state prison system was self-sustaining because of the proceeds from crops and prison industries. There is no good reason, other than protecting their "civil rights," why this could not be the case again. Let the criminals lift dirt with shovels, rather than lift barbells, and chop wood rather than play basketball.
To: Next_Time_NJ
Why is a 16/17 year old only an adult when they do something bad? It is not necessary or desirable (yet) to allow 16 year olds in the USMC.
It is highly desirable that 16-year old killers be put to death.
To: michigander
He ought to be impeached for that.
449
posted on
03/01/2005 9:08:52 AM PST
by
Petronski
(Zebras: Free Range Bar Codes of the Serengeti)
To: michigander
"It is proper that we acknowledge the overwhelming weight of international opinion against the juvenile death penalty, resting in large part on the understanding that the instability and emotional imbalance of young people may often be a factor in the crime," he wrote in the 25-page opinion Ummmm .... what does international opinion have to due with OUR constitution?
450
posted on
03/01/2005 9:09:02 AM PST
by
Mo1
(Question to the Media/Press ... Why are you hiding the Eason Jordan tapes ????)
To: Sandy
Do you really think that a blanket generalization regarding *all* teen criminals is preferable to having each criminal judged on a case by case basis? BINGO!!!
451
posted on
03/01/2005 9:09:22 AM PST
by
Netizen
(jmo)
To: Next_Time_NJ
Justice: Twisted by the clowns in black 'til dead.
452
posted on
03/01/2005 9:10:13 AM PST
by
csvset
To: Next_Time_NJ
Juveniles have been able to murder their unborn babies... now it's open season on everybody. Disgraceful.
To: michigander
That is precisely the way to set up the situation too.
If Congress, the Executive or State government simply defy a Supreme Court order, they will lose the public relations battle.
But this is a good way to go about it.
First, pick a controversial issue on which the majority of politically motivated people who will care will side with you.
Second, assert the Constitutional power to limit jurisdiction in the legislation itself. This tees up the issue nicely as a battle between Congress (and the President) using enumerated powers in the Constitution, against the general right of review asserted by the court.
Third, put it into place and start affecting civil rights thereby, ensuring a rapid-fire stream of litigation, forcing the issue to ripen quickly.
Then see what the Court does.
But I'll tell you what the Court will probably do: declare the legislation unconstitutional, just like they declared that the President's war powers don't extend to holding enemy combattants without trial.
And when they do, will the PRESIDENT (only)(because only the President enforces the law) nakedly defy a Supreme Court order and continue to enforce the law?
And if he does, will his own party in Congress resist the drumbeat of calls for impeachment?
Anyway it is all moot: this bill will be filibustered in the Senate by the Democrats.
455
posted on
03/01/2005 9:10:45 AM PST
by
Vicomte13
(Tibikak Ishkwata!)
To: mware
The adult criminal now have a large pool of people to draw from to do their bidding.Honestly...this just proves the opposite point. If they are that easily manipulate by an adult, are they fully functional and mature? They probably wouldn't have gotten the death penalty anyway. But the adult could very well pay the ultimate price.
456
posted on
03/01/2005 9:11:13 AM PST
by
colorcountry
(All the people like us are we, and everyone else is They. ...Rudyard Kipling)
To: Halls
"
Yeah, this is big, but honestly I think I have to agree with their decision."After all, if someone is killed by a person under the age of 18, he isn't quite as dead as if he were killed by an adult.
Makes sense to me. (/sarc.)
To: RnMomof7
This is a horrific outrage. I can't believe this is happening now.
Now I'm REALLY scared of letting these guys near the 2nd amendment!
458
posted on
03/01/2005 9:13:09 AM PST
by
G32
To: nightdriver
After all, if someone is killed by a person under the age of 18, he isn't quite as dead as if he were killed by an adult...if someone is killed by a person "who is drunk and driving, therefore not fully understanding his actions", he isn't quite as dead as if he were killed by a sober person.
459
posted on
03/01/2005 9:14:46 AM PST
by
colorcountry
(All the people like us are we, and everyone else is They. ...Rudyard Kipling)
To: Next_Time_NJ
Again why only treat them as adults when they do something bad.. For what its worth, in my book, murder is MORE than 'doing something bad'.
Can you name anything worse?
460
posted on
03/01/2005 9:15:16 AM PST
by
Netizen
(jmo)
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