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CNN: US SUPREME COURT: ALL DEATH PENALTY CASES WITH JUVENILE KILLERS THROWN OUT!
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Posted on 03/01/2005 7:21:16 AM PST by Next_Time_NJ

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To: Next_Time_NJ

"Women with illegitimate children hit hardest!" /sarcasm


441 posted on 03/01/2005 9:05:18 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Next_Time_NJ

The adult criminal now have a large pool of people to draw from to do their bidding.


442 posted on 03/01/2005 9:06:30 AM PST by mware
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To: jwalsh07
I do not even get this. Since when is OUR(the US) court suppose to be using an international treaty to base their decision?.
I thought they were suppose to use the US Constitution!
This is scary . I had no idea this is what SCOTUS has been doing.

And to beat it all the treaty listed in this decision is not ratified.

Speechless.
443 posted on 03/01/2005 9:06:40 AM PST by snarkytart
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To: jwalsh07

Blah, Blah when you have no answer? LOL


444 posted on 03/01/2005 9:07:11 AM PST by Protagoras (" I believe that's the role of the federal government, to help people"...GWB, 7-23-04)
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To: Next_Time_NJ
Thats my point.. They arent ready yet.. They dont have the brains to do it.

Thats MAJOR bullshit.

You pull the trigger, carve someone else up like a pig, or rape and murder someone....you got the brains and intent to do it.

445 posted on 03/01/2005 9:08:03 AM PST by BureaucratusMaximus ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" - Hillary Clinton)
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To: Next_Time_NJ
To be honest I am totally pro life, although I admit I struggle when the victim of a crime is a child.

If life really meant life I would have no problem with getting rid of the death penalty.

446 posted on 03/01/2005 9:08:22 AM PST by mware
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To: Modernman
An environment where some miscreant receives some degree of creature comforts after conviction for heinous crimes is not a "calm, impartial legal system," but rather one that fails to punish convicted criminals out of concern for their "civil rights," which should have been forfeited upon their conviction and sentence. The victim receives no compensation for the injuries or property lost. In many cases, the victim will be sorting out his problems over his lifetime even as the criminal can build his strength through decent food and exercise and perhaps improve his "job skills" through learning from other criminals. After his sentence is complete, the released felon can return to preying on society.

This nation was far better off when physically fit convicts were required to do hard labor on road crews, construction sites, and farms. Up until the 1960s, the Texas state prison system was self-sustaining because of the proceeds from crops and prison industries. There is no good reason, other than protecting their "civil rights," why this could not be the case again. Let the criminals lift dirt with shovels, rather than lift barbells, and chop wood rather than play basketball.

447 posted on 03/01/2005 9:08:25 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: Next_Time_NJ
Why is a 16/17 year old only an adult when they do something bad?

It is not necessary or desirable (yet) to allow 16 year olds in the USMC.

It is highly desirable that 16-year old killers be put to death.

448 posted on 03/01/2005 9:08:27 AM PST by Jim Noble
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To: michigander

He ought to be impeached for that.


449 posted on 03/01/2005 9:08:52 AM PST by Petronski (Zebras: Free Range Bar Codes of the Serengeti)
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To: michigander
"It is proper that we acknowledge the overwhelming weight of international opinion against the juvenile death penalty, resting in large part on the understanding that the instability and emotional imbalance of young people may often be a factor in the crime," he wrote in the 25-page opinion

Ummmm .... what does international opinion have to due with OUR constitution?

450 posted on 03/01/2005 9:09:02 AM PST by Mo1 (Question to the Media/Press ... Why are you hiding the Eason Jordan tapes ????)
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To: Sandy
Do you really think that a blanket generalization regarding *all* teen criminals is preferable to having each criminal judged on a case by case basis?

BINGO!!!

451 posted on 03/01/2005 9:09:22 AM PST by Netizen (jmo)
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To: Next_Time_NJ

Justice: Twisted by the clowns in black 'til dead.


452 posted on 03/01/2005 9:10:13 AM PST by csvset
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To: Next_Time_NJ

The reason is scarer than the decision itself

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1353450/posts


453 posted on 03/01/2005 9:10:37 AM PST by RnMomof7
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Juveniles have been able to murder their unborn babies... now it's open season on everybody. Disgraceful.


454 posted on 03/01/2005 9:10:39 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture (We shall overcome)
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To: michigander

That is precisely the way to set up the situation too.

If Congress, the Executive or State government simply defy a Supreme Court order, they will lose the public relations battle.

But this is a good way to go about it.
First, pick a controversial issue on which the majority of politically motivated people who will care will side with you.

Second, assert the Constitutional power to limit jurisdiction in the legislation itself. This tees up the issue nicely as a battle between Congress (and the President) using enumerated powers in the Constitution, against the general right of review asserted by the court.

Third, put it into place and start affecting civil rights thereby, ensuring a rapid-fire stream of litigation, forcing the issue to ripen quickly.

Then see what the Court does.
But I'll tell you what the Court will probably do: declare the legislation unconstitutional, just like they declared that the President's war powers don't extend to holding enemy combattants without trial.
And when they do, will the PRESIDENT (only)(because only the President enforces the law) nakedly defy a Supreme Court order and continue to enforce the law?
And if he does, will his own party in Congress resist the drumbeat of calls for impeachment?

Anyway it is all moot: this bill will be filibustered in the Senate by the Democrats.


455 posted on 03/01/2005 9:10:45 AM PST by Vicomte13 (Tibikak Ishkwata!)
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To: mware
The adult criminal now have a large pool of people to draw from to do their bidding.

Honestly...this just proves the opposite point. If they are that easily manipulate by an adult, are they fully functional and mature? They probably wouldn't have gotten the death penalty anyway. But the adult could very well pay the ultimate price.

456 posted on 03/01/2005 9:11:13 AM PST by colorcountry (All the people like us are we, and everyone else is They. ...Rudyard Kipling)
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To: Halls
"Yeah, this is big, but honestly I think I have to agree with their decision."

After all, if someone is killed by a person under the age of 18, he isn't quite as dead as if he were killed by an adult.

Makes sense to me. (/sarc.)

457 posted on 03/01/2005 9:11:42 AM PST by nightdriver
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To: RnMomof7

This is a horrific outrage. I can't believe this is happening now.

Now I'm REALLY scared of letting these guys near the 2nd amendment!


458 posted on 03/01/2005 9:13:09 AM PST by G32
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To: nightdriver
After all, if someone is killed by a person under the age of 18, he isn't quite as dead as if he were killed by an adult

...if someone is killed by a person "who is drunk and driving, therefore not fully understanding his actions", he isn't quite as dead as if he were killed by a sober person.

459 posted on 03/01/2005 9:14:46 AM PST by colorcountry (All the people like us are we, and everyone else is They. ...Rudyard Kipling)
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To: Next_Time_NJ
Again why only treat them as adults when they do something bad..

For what its worth, in my book, murder is MORE than 'doing something bad'.

Can you name anything worse?

460 posted on 03/01/2005 9:15:16 AM PST by Netizen (jmo)
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