Posted on 03/01/2005 4:12:35 AM PST by cyn
A Jacksonville victim rights group and a state legislator urged Gov. Jeb Bush on Monday to launch a criminal probe into events that put Terri Schiavo in the hospital with severe brain damage 15 years ago.
Justice Coalition founder Ted Hires also asked the state Department of Children & Families to take Schiavo into protective custody and Florida's attorney general to initiate a civil rights investigation into her treatment and efforts by her husband to have the feeding tube that keeps her alive removed. . . .
Her parents said they filed the divorce proceedings because of Michael Schiavo's "total disregard for Terri as his wife." ....
(Excerpt) Read more at jacksonville.com ...
never mind -- was my 'puter sound problem, don't know why I was hearing music, but I got her mom that time.
These two sentences demonstrate how little you know about this case. No doctor who has treated her has ever described her as brain dead, because she isn't. She recognizes people, she responds to others' speech, even though she cannot speak.
Learn a bit more about it - and since you are clearly not a parent, think about whether her parents might have some insight into her wishes and think about whether they have her best wishes at heart or whether her husband does - remember, he gets more than a million in cash as soon as she is dead.
And all this is beside the fact that her husband is proposing to have her starved and dehydrated to death. If you did that to a cat in FL you would be in prison. But it's apparently OK to treat an injured human being like that, as far as you are concerned.
"INCLUDING ARTIFICIALLY PROVIDED SUSTENENCE AND HYDRATION, WHICH SUSTAINS, RESTORES, OR SUPPLANTS A SPONTANEOUS VITAL FUNCTION".It becomes law on October 1, 1999."
We must note that until this date, it was not considered an extraordinary measure to provide water and food in any way to a patient. Meaning, obviously, that Terri could not have anticipated that she would be denied food and water.
I'd looked into this legislation a year or so ago, trying to understand the (to me unfathomable) thought process that led the FL legislature to this change. I found a flow of thought in medical journal articles in the '80s and '90s that rationalized such treatment of patients. This is clearly an agenda.
Oh, tut, speaking of Jim King's legacy:
"State Sen. Jim King, R-Jacksonville, called the request [to Gov. Bush for a special prosecutor] an obvious tactic.Well, what's it to him if they do?"The plan seems to be to elongate this as much as they can, and there's going to be all kinds of that in the coming weeks," King said.'
What is this to Sen. King that he has to take such cheap shots at a family?
. . .continued prayers for strength, wellbeing, wisdom from above, discernment to determine what is right and best to do, every good thing and person to come their way, and every need to be met -- even the needs they do not realize they have. May God give them peace and respite even in the midst of this battle; may they find themselves refreshed through little things. May we all be brought closer to God and an understanding of His ways through our work for Terri.
King isn't interested in anything that doesn't benefit him directly in one way or another, IMO.
He had a hissy that UF did not open the chiropractic college. . . what's it to him? Did he lose some money over that? Course we'll never know the answer to that one but King will have strong resistance if he runs for reelection.
The videos don't show any cognition by Terri at all.
In contrast, the MRI's apparently show that the upper part of her brain is all but gone. Physically gone. I don't mean non-functioning. I mean the cells aren't there.
Link to Terri Video and Comments
http://www.rense.com/general63/redgi.htm
Jeff Rense's fighting hard too for Terri..
She is the main story tonight.
The video clip is just that. The only way to get to know Terri better is to just go visit her. If a public official, who is being told by a "knowing" public that another person is being heinously victimized, and law enforcement will not even go up against the guardian to investigate the complaints, then something is wrong here. This is when a legislator, senator, governor or judge is bound and has authority to find out for themselves what is happening to one of their citizens. Sworn oath to defend ALL laws. And the laws say that these reports of crimes against this or any person that are not being investigated and could be causing harm to the person every day that no one is "permitted in the house" to find out if the husband is abusing by denying -- who the heck is this Michael Schiavo anyway.
Since when. These heinous people are playing the "privacy card" just one too many times.
So that Dollar family, should have told the police that what goes on in this family is none of yours or the worlds business.
But it doe not apply when it comes to Terri Schiavo. TILT !!!!
"The part that is hard for people who do not spend any time around or WITH a disabled person, is that they are a person too. And that I as a person must work a little harder to remove those defenses I wear in being able-bodied enough to allow myself to treat the person in that disabled vessel they have to carry their person, their being, so that "I" will be respectful enough to understand them. The way in which you or I understand each other, that thing inside us that operates almost automatically to modify itself and compensate so that we can have relation, 'can be' just as automatic in relations with any disabled *person* but just without as quick of expectation. It is still the same. And once you take the time to slow down long enough, that first time, to permit your own system to have a chance to add a new skill to your ability to relate with yet another *person* , then you will have grown in your ability to relate better with all types of people in this vast pallet of humanity. Your will be enlarged and enlightened in a way that will brighten your personal nature.
Disabled people such as Terri Schiavo and others are in some ways better than the able-bodied people because they are faced with far greater daily challenges than most. They possess incredible adaptive abilities that are driven by a force that we rarely tap daily, that of instinctual survival powers. The life forces associated with that aspect of our being are redlining off the scale and they have ready access. We however, are disabled from touching that source by our own abilities. If you treat the person in the disabled person, with the same respect and human expectation as a being then they have a chance to relate on a level field. If your expectations of another out in your daily encounters with others do not balance with the other, on any given interaction, then the result will be as it is, non conversationally compatible. So who is really lesser than who. The answer is No One. Just needs more adjustment to equalize and permit a two way understanding even if one can speak words and the cannot or has difficulty.
To intentionally deprive a person from those things they are to be provided to help bridge the gap and create an environment and atmosphere for improvement is to criminally abuse, neglect and exploit their vulnerability. To gain for yourself from all that is despicable and the law says that because you have no respect for life, especially when you are one who is specifically responsible for that life, that person, then you need to be away from all persons as you are a threat to each and every one of us.
Michael Schiavo and the bunch attached to him are just such people the criminal code defines, and need to be prosecuted.
They have no time, care or patience for those who they are charged with this highest responsibility. They are an immediate threat to any disabled person by their resolve to deem them as inferior, non-human and only worthy of extermination.
The video clip is just that. The only way to get to know Terri better is to just go visit her. If a public official, who is being told by a "knowing" public that another person is being heinously victimized, and law enforcement will not even go up against the guardian to investigate the complaints, then something is wrong here. This is when a legislator, senator, governor or judge is bound and has authority to find out for themselves what is happening to one of their citizens. Sworn oath to defend ALL laws. And the laws say that these reports of crimes against this or any person that are not being investigated and could be causing harm to the person every day that no one is "permitted in the house" to find out if the husband is abusing by denying -- who the heck is this Michael Schiavo anyway.
Since when. These heinous people are playing the "privacy card" just one too many times.
So that Dollar family, should have told the police that what goes on in this family is none of yours or the worlds business.
But it does not apply when it comes to Terri Schiavo. TILT !!!!
What do you think?
wow. I am just wanting to double check this here: are you then saying that Bob Schindler, Cheryl Ford, and David Gibbs are liars? This refers to my earlier post #19, and considering the account in posts #14 and #31 -- which I'm sure you have read and carefully considered in your quest for truth here on FR.
And you know this how?
And you are willing to accept this over eyewitness accounts, which I confirmed for myself yesterday?
The videos show a disabled woman who is aware of her surroundings. They show Terri responding to her lvoing mother's affections.
Have you studied the MRI's? How do you know that Terri's brain cells "aren't there"?
Beyond "moving on", should she recover to the point of being able to communicate, I believe he fears her testimony as to how she became disabled.
This is an important find.
Really, it is odd that the state requires no record of Terri's supposed wish for withholding of care. NONE. Even in PC California, to donate one's organs AFTER death, a certificate is needed. To suspend efforts to resucitate (sp?) a terminally ill person, it is necessary for that person to sign a DNR form. Yet all that is needed in FL is the mere WORD of a man who has financial interest in the patient's death? And after all he has done against her interest? This is very fishy.
I originally thought, 'big deal.' Then the wider issues were revealed, and the application of this case to future such cases became apparent. Keeping someone in a hospital bed is expensive; heathcare costs are determined by accountants rather than doctors. If the Schiavo precedent is set, how long before any sick person can be given this back-door death-sentence?
It's part of the court records.
"Over the span of this last decade, Theresa's brain has deteriorated because of the lack of oxygen it suffered at the time of the heart attack. By mid 1996, the CAT scans of her brain showed a severely abnormal structure. At this point, much of her cerebral cortex is simply gone and has been replaced by cerebral spinal fluid. Medicine cannot cure this condition. Unless an act of God, a true miracle, were to recreate her brain, Theresa will always remain in an unconscious, reflexive state, totally dependent upon others to feed her and care for her most private needs (emphasis added)."
Eyewitnesses are unreliable. And their reports of the same films I see are obviously wrong.
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