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Chicago - Bodies Found at Home of Federal Judge
Associated Press | February 28, 2005

Posted on 02/28/2005 7:12:08 PM PST by HAL9000

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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs

"You are correct, she was the judge in the George Ryan License Selling Scandal, but she was also the judge on several nasty drug trials and these murders were done execution style, one bullet to the back of the head of both vicitims."

I've been thinking about this, and though ws's are suspect, they are more bark than bite and haven't done too many political killings. If this was Hale-related, why wait so long? I think this was a professional job perpetrated by an intelligent killer who KNEW racists would be suspect and that it would be sensationalized. A braindead, rag-tag "creator" wouldn't get past the security system, neither would a druggie. This killer probably got paid by a wealthy client. .22's are often used in professional hit jobs. Just ask the mob.
We still don't know if the house was burglarized. The last thing Joan would want to do right now is search through her belongings to see if anything is missing. As the day goes on, more light should be shed on this.
Remember freepers that the liberal media has already framed this debate. When wealthy, powerful people fall victim to this kind of crime, there are many possible motives and suspects.


341 posted on 03/01/2005 1:22:04 PM PST by followerofchrist
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To: ariamne

Yes,, that was established earlier on this thread in detail.


342 posted on 03/01/2005 2:00:15 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: ariamne
I have visited his website/chat room back when Hale was sending white supremacists to Lewiston, Maine during the Somali/Mayor fiasco. I visited some other white supremest websites today..and they do have some pretty "hate related and dangerous" postings.
343 posted on 03/01/2005 2:07:42 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: followerofchrist
..why wait so long?

Remember terrorists and like ilk have patience. Back then it could have seemed obvious; but letting time lapse would leave "reasonable doubt". Just my opinion. ;)

344 posted on 03/01/2005 2:11:13 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: ariamne

I noticed to my chagrin later. Hoped no one noticed! Thanks.


345 posted on 03/01/2005 3:23:20 PM PST by ariamne (reformed liberal--Shieldmaiden of the Infidel)
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To: followerofchrist

That's all CJ ever does and the mods let her do it 24-7.

If you believe in culture war, you are a nazi.

damn shame...very destructive to this forum..


VERY.


346 posted on 03/01/2005 3:26:47 PM PST by wardaddy (I don't think Muslims are good for America....just a gut instinct thing.)
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To: fight_truth_decay

Apparantly Judge Lefkow ruled IN FAVOR of Hale, but the media keeps lying about this. Even I believed it, until a friend in Illinois enlightened me (see link below). An appellate court overturned her decision and she merely enforced the law by threatening to fine him. The "white supremacist" motive is falling short. I think y'all are going in the wrong direction on this and allowing media propaganda to cloud your judgement.


http://www.rickross.com/reference/hale/hale73.html


347 posted on 03/01/2005 3:35:17 PM PST by followerofchrist
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To: montag813
that's what a sarcasm tag is for. relax.

Yeah I missed that, since it was in a separate post. Easier to see when it's in the same post. There was some rather ugly stuff on the thread, and yours, as posted, was over the top. I know (now) that wasn't the intent, but that was how it looked at the time. I know you're one of the good guys though.

348 posted on 03/01/2005 3:42:15 PM PST by xjcsa (She died of loneliness...loneliness and rabies...)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
"I just found out that Joan's mother was ill and in the hospital in Denver. When she was well enough to visit the judge she flew out to Chicago. She had two walkers. The bastards who killed her must be caught."

Our Culture is spawning. . .in too many instances; the lowest class of humanity. . . .and it seems to be a growing 'standard' among young killer/criminals.

Even the older prison population is afraid of some of these 'people' - so to speak - coming into their midst.

I hope they find this person; and 'take care' that he does not live to see his lawyer - though I guess he does have info to share. . .well whatever.

OTOH. . .someone else may take just that precaution; for just that reason. . .the killer may be a 'goner' already. . .

349 posted on 03/01/2005 3:43:41 PM PST by cricket
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To: xjcsa
I know (now) that wasn't the intent, but that was how it looked at the time. I know you're one of the good guys though.

thanks. A little crass "Pelican Brief" humor. Very frustrating to see today that Clinton appointed 397 judges...50 more than Reagan! And Bush has only gotten 204...less than Carter. shows how poisoned our judicial system is, and the importance of the "nuclear option" so we can fill the courts for a generation.

350 posted on 03/01/2005 3:44:22 PM PST by montag813
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
"I just found out that Joan's mother was ill and in the hospital in Denver. When she was well enough to visit the judge she flew out to Chicago. She had two walkers. The bastards who killed her must be caught."

Our Culture is spawning. . .in too many instances; the lowest class of humanity. . . .and it seems to be a growing 'standard' among young killer/criminals.

Even the older prison population is afraid of some of these 'people' - so to speak - coming into their midst.

I hope they find this person; and 'take care' that he does not live to see his lawyer - though I guess he does have info to share. . .well whatever.

OTOH. . .someone else may take that precaution; and for just that reason. . .the killer may be a 'goner' already. . .

351 posted on 03/01/2005 3:44:43 PM PST by cricket
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To: montag813

It is disgusting and Bush needs to 'try' harder. . .this cannot stand. ..


352 posted on 03/01/2005 3:45:47 PM PST by cricket
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To: wardaddy

The te-ta-ma Truth Foundation apparantly got a trademanrk on "World Church of the Creator" after the racist org had been using it for 15 years. They are a leftist universalist new-age group. Lefkow ruled for Hale and an appellate court overturned it. Something smells fishy about this case.


353 posted on 03/01/2005 3:46:57 PM PST by followerofchrist
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"The Judge's home address and pictures of her family were posted on a racist discussion group. "

Incredible...and incredible that they only had police security for a short time; and that they did not replace it with 'private armed security'.

354 posted on 03/01/2005 3:53:12 PM PST by cricket
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To: followerofchrist

well....much like the OKC bombing....anytime a looney Neo Nazi or Christian Identity etc. goes off, that is used to tar anyone to the right of Cultural Jihad which is arguably over half the electorate and most of this forum.

Sadly.

And what we have to do with those folks beats me....of wait I forget...we enable them. I believe that is what they said after OKC.


355 posted on 03/01/2005 4:11:23 PM PST by wardaddy (I don't think Muslims are good for America....just a gut instinct thing.)
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To: ariamne

Affirmative, and I do believe the, "Real Boys In The Hood" will fight on our side against the muslim terrorist. The enemy of my enemy is my friend? We do have many sympathizers in the democratic party for AQ. Those idiots want America to fall becasue they are not in power. We also have many muslim converts like calypso louies crowd who sure would not greet us in Sunday School. I think it is time for all these groups to be looked at real hard as a terrorist groups from within. Evil Triumphs When Good Men&Women Do Nothing.The Feds neeed to start targeting these groups instead of Billy Bob's, "Pabst Blue Ribbon Beer Drinking-Shotgun toting- sheet wearing blow-hards." NSNR


356 posted on 03/01/2005 4:42:57 PM PST by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: SJackson

You have a very valid point. Yes, and I want people to see these other radical groups for what they represent also. Cold vile hatred for others who disagree with their political views and agenda. NSNR


357 posted on 03/01/2005 4:47:17 PM PST by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: followerofchrist
I know that link..thanks. Time will tell. Check out the white supremest links sometime. The KKK is TAME compared to what I have found. As I earlier commented, I visited his chat room under the Church's name which had sued him. The hate was there. Enough for me to get out of there when I entered into some conversations with his group..and I was not belligerent.

Coulson Esq.,(Chicago) spoke on O'Reilly. April 6th is to be Hale's date before the judge. This was as you said a trademark case and yes she ruled in favor of Hale. Overturned, she had to issue the injunction and she did fine him. She was easy on Hale, but he is still the "top" suspect. The media is not being told differently by authorities in charge.

358 posted on 03/01/2005 5:23:37 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: Theodore R.

Shame on you for trying to politicize at the expense of this woman. Who cares who nominated her? This is a sick crime perpetrated by vermin.


359 posted on 03/01/2005 5:45:00 PM PST by Dengar01
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To: cricket
THIS says it all...cultural destruction for the USA unless Frist acts NOW...


360 posted on 03/01/2005 6:19:52 PM PST by montag813
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