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The OSCARS!!!! Live Thread..... Red Carpet 6pm.. Awards 8pm Est
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Posted on 02/27/2005 9:54:03 AM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs



TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: academyawards; dilligaf; euthanasia; hildysfakeopus; hollyweird; immoralityenablers; notbreakingnews; oscars; snore; trash; whocares; yawn; youcare
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To: wardaddy

How sad. Whatever happened to communication?


3,301 posted on 02/27/2005 10:29:44 PM PST by marajade
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To: mountaineer
Nope just asking, why Must care about an art form that thinks michael moore and leni reiesthal represent the height of what can be accomplished.
3,302 posted on 02/27/2005 10:30:35 PM PST by dts32041 (When did the Democratic party stop being the political arm of the KKK?)
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To: over3Owithabrain

It certainly is overwhelmingly lefist. But I'm of the opinion, along with Michael Medved, that Conservatives should engage the culture instead of lamenting it. Look for the good stuff and if possible make conservaive themed movies. It's not as elite and closed off as some people think. People like Kevin Smith made movies on his credit card!


3,303 posted on 02/27/2005 10:31:01 PM PST by Borges
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To: newzjunkey
Morgan Freeman won. Definitely overdue.

Morgan Freeman is one of those very rare actors who can lose themselves totally in their role. There are terrific actors, like Kevin Spacey or going back in history, Clark Gable or Humphrey Bogart. True greats. But you always knew that they were themselves playing a part, at least in the back of your head.

However, Morgan Freeman is one of those very rare actors who, when you watch, you completely believe that he is the character on the screen, and that's quite rare. He's got that ability, in every role I've seen him play. Some actors can "hit it" in a very special role, like Sir Ian McCallan, when he played Gandalf. I actually wanted to know how Peter Jackson got Gandalf to play himself in the movies! But in many of his other roles, he's still the wonderful actor playing a part. Very few actors could do this in just about every role. Sir Lawrence Olivier, Gary Cooper, and yes, Johnny Depp!

Morgan Freeman is one of those very rare actors, who makes you forget that he's acting.

Mark

3,304 posted on 02/27/2005 10:32:58 PM PST by MarkL (That which does not kill me, has made the last mistake it will ever make!)
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To: Borges
It certainly is overwhelmingly lefist. But I'm of the opinion, along with Michael Medved, that Conservatives should engage the culture instead of lamenting it. Look for the good stuff and if possible make conservaive themed movies. It's not as elite and closed off as some people think. People like Kevin Smith made movies on his credit card!

We agree there, my FRiend. My invective is directed at the Hollywood culture, which is on full display at Oscar time, like ghouls on Halloween. I appreciate and support those in the industry who are fighting the good fight. Have a great night and thanks for the exchanges.
3,305 posted on 02/27/2005 10:33:41 PM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: gopwinsin04
'My name is Prince Rodgers Nelson..and I will be your waiter tonight!'

Watch it, you are sounding like Howard Dean and his Hotel staff/people of color comment.

:-)

3,306 posted on 02/27/2005 10:35:10 PM PST by beyond the sea (Barbara Boxer is Barbra Streisand on peyote .....)
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To: NorCalRepub

"the difference is Chris Reeve's didn't ask to be killed and she did"

Murder is murder. Hliiary's character didn't have the right to murder herself, either through her own means or through a proxy.

That's why I'm against Oregon's right-to-be-murdered law, we are God's, we belong to Him.

Therefore, we don't have the right to murder, including our own murder.

"plus remember, he was telling a story...and if you are Catholic"

I'm not Catholic...

"are you anti-Jewish"

Not at all, I believe Jews are God's chosen people, and salvation was given to the Gentiles only to bring the Jews to Yeshua, the true Messiach.

"I think you can tell a story on film and not espouse it's ending or premise"

It was propoganda, pure and simple, like Cider House Rules. It's like watching Leni Riefenstahl's Triumph of the Will, which glorified Nazism, or Birth of a Nation, which glorified the KKK...and as such, it was anti-Catholic.

It didn't matter that he was a so-called Catholic, any more than Kerry is Catholic or Ted Kennedy or the Maryknoll Marxists.

Ed


3,307 posted on 02/27/2005 10:37:26 PM PST by Sir_Ed
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To: over3Owithabrain

Thanks. I should say that I don't begrudge anyone creating art that reflects their beliefs. After all if you or I made a film it would reflect ours. If some liberal tried to make a conservative themed film it would be pandering junk. I can appreciate Art that puts forward a moral vision with which I disagree. Have a good night.


3,308 posted on 02/27/2005 10:37:39 PM PST by Borges
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To: Borges
"Look for the good stuff and if possible make conservaive themed movies. It's not as elite and closed off as some people think."

This is the interesting part. Why should they? Let's look at the New media as an example. It seems to me that people like you would have been saying that conservatives should just jump into ABC, NBC, CBS, and try to change the culture. But what happenned? THE INTERNET!

Now let's see if this "American art form" of Hollywood will survive, or something else might overtake it. Interesting eh?

3,309 posted on 02/27/2005 10:38:24 PM PST by A Citizen Reporter
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To: daisyscarlett; Grzegorz 246; Lukasz
The win was well deserved. The musical score in "Finding Neverland" was the best.

"Polish composer Jan A. P. Kaczmarek holds up his Oscar statue at the Governor's Ball after the 77th annual Academy Awards (news - web sites) in Hollywood, February 27, 2005.

Kaczmakek won the Academy Award for achievement in music (original score) for his work on 'Finding Neverland.' REUTERS/Lucy Nicholson"


3,310 posted on 02/27/2005 10:39:00 PM PST by bd476 ("You can't get there from here." from "Which Way to Millinocket?" Bert & I)
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To: A Citizen Reporter

Well the success of Fox News proves that there was room and a need for an alternative voice. Anyone can make a movie. Richard Linklater is based in Texas. Kevin Smith is based in New Jersey.


3,311 posted on 02/27/2005 10:40:50 PM PST by Borges
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To: EveningStar
Medved said that this was the worst performance of Freeman's life - that he sleepwalked through the role.

I haven't seen "Million Dollar Baby," and I don't know if I will. But Morgan Freeman has been excellent in every role I've ever seen him play. Even that stinker, Costner's "Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves."

Mark

3,312 posted on 02/27/2005 10:42:55 PM PST by MarkL (That which does not kill me, has made the last mistake it will ever make!)
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To: Borges
"Well the success of Fox News proves that there was room and a need for an alternative voice"

"An alternative voice? How strange that you see it that way. But I'm not surprised.

3,313 posted on 02/27/2005 10:43:43 PM PST by A Citizen Reporter
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To: MarkL

He really was phoning this one in. He should have won for Street Smart or Driving Miss Daisy. Where he really DID vanish into the role.


3,314 posted on 02/27/2005 10:44:00 PM PST by Borges
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To: A Citizen Reporter

Alternative to what the norm had previously been. Which is good. What's wrong with that?


3,315 posted on 02/27/2005 10:45:08 PM PST by Borges
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To: Sir_Ed

ok......I got ya.....so you are calling Clint a liar, that is fine....I choose to believe him and not read into things that are not there......Dems do that all the time and I don't want to emulate them.....since propoganda is meant to persuade someone to a point of view, then you are saying Cling mission here was to persuade others to do this..well that is a whole lot of speculating......don't ya think Clint knows better than some of the critics?


3,316 posted on 02/27/2005 10:46:00 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: Borges
"What's wrong with that?"

That is was ever a "norm" to begin with. It wasn't to me.

3,317 posted on 02/27/2005 10:48:47 PM PST by A Citizen Reporter
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To: A Citizen Reporter

Norm as in the predominant voice. Desription not an evaluative judgement. These days I get my news from Fox.


3,318 posted on 02/27/2005 10:50:45 PM PST by Borges
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To: Petronski
I keep posting this because it's so scary.

As I recall, the book was alot scarier than the movie, though it's been at least 30 years since I read it. I recall that the book was quite dark and scary for a young child. I think that Johnny Depp may do a really wonderful job in that movie.

Mark

3,319 posted on 02/27/2005 10:52:00 PM PST by MarkL (That which does not kill me, has made the last mistake it will ever make!)
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To: NorCalRepub

Yes, I agree that Clint doesn't explicitly "glorify" euthanasia, but the audience is still left reeling emotionally, and the temptation to sympathize with his character is overwhelming. There is no negative comment on his killing of Maggie.

The viewer is left without any contrary view. The film simply ends. The viewer has little chance to condemn his actions, since the preceding two hours of the film has succeeded in generating intense sympathy for Frankie and Maggie. How can the viewer feel anything except admiration as he leaves the theatre, or at least say to himself, "I understand where he's coming from."

Again, subtle propaganda as only a movie can accomplish.


3,320 posted on 02/27/2005 10:52:21 PM PST by Deo volente (God willing, Terri Schiavo will live.)
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