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News from the home front of Norway, our allies in the war against terror.

The Vikings must not have been as good ship-builders as the English, if this boat is so fragile that vaccuuming it causes harm.

One recalls a few years the English excavated a boat from the reign of Henry VIII, where it had laid in the bottom of the water for hundreds of years, and it was still reasonably intact.

On the Aftenposten web-site (the red link above), there is also news about the possible demise of the famous luxury passenger ship, the Norway. It was never in the same class as the Cunarders Queen Mary, the Queen Elizabeth, the Queen Elizabeth II, and the current Queen Mary II, but one assumes it was still a pretty good ship.

1 posted on 02/25/2005 12:31:48 PM PST by franksolich
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To: franksolich

Graffiti from the Viking age?

UFFDA!


2 posted on 02/25/2005 12:33:50 PM PST by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: franksolich
The Vikings must not have been as good ship-builders as the English, if this boat is so fragile that vaccuuming it causes harm. One recalls a few years the English excavated a boat from the reign of Henry VIII, where it had laid in the bottom of the water for hundreds of years, and it was still reasonably intact.

Not really fair. A viking longboat would be MUCH older than the reign of Henry VIII.

3 posted on 02/25/2005 12:36:12 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: franksolich

and just out of warranty, too, how much you wanna bet?


4 posted on 02/25/2005 12:37:56 PM PST by tumblindice (Our Founding Fathers: all conservative gun owners)
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The Vikings must not have been as good ship-builders as the English, if this boat is so fragile that vaccuuming it causes harm.

I think taking it out of the water speeds up the decaying process.

5 posted on 02/25/2005 12:38:37 PM PST by frogjerk
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To: feefee; JLO; kingsurfer; wizr; cinives; Charles Henrickson; Eurotwit; tomjohn77; Theoden; ...

"Ping" for the Norway ping list.

My thanks to wizr of the Norway ping list, for sending that story about criminals turning themselves in, but alas they were Danish criminals in Denmark, not eastern Europeans trying to outwit wary Norwegian border guards.

This week, I plan to dig around and find the web-site (or even mailing address) of the Norwegian border guards, so as to send them my congratulations and admiration for the fine work they do, in protecting Norway.

Those on the Norway ping list, as usual, may expect a copy (via e-mail) of such correspondence, as in the past.

I remain mystified that one never reads stories about Norwegians smuggling beer, tobacco, and illegal substances into Denmark or Poland; it always seems the other way around.

Wonderful, law-abiding people, the Norwegians.


6 posted on 02/25/2005 12:38:59 PM PST by franksolich (ski jumping flop)
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No longer seaworthy? So much for the Norwegian Navy.
Proabably still better than the French though.
7 posted on 02/25/2005 12:39:47 PM PST by BitWielder1
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bump


8 posted on 02/25/2005 12:41:13 PM PST by Constantine XIII
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This is what happens when I let the wife do the housekeeping........the woman's a menace with a broom.


11 posted on 02/25/2005 12:47:15 PM PST by Viking2002 (Let's get the Insurrection started, already..............)
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Don't be too hard on your ancestors. You are comparing a much older "clinker-built" galley to an early "Ship of the Line". Viking longboats were shallow draft vessels that could be sailed or rowed up narrow waterways & beached. Henry VIII was building a robust sailing vessel that was designed primarily to serve as a gun platform. 2 different animals and probably 400 years separate them.


12 posted on 02/25/2005 12:47:54 PM PST by Tallguy
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To: franksolich; Zavien Doombringer; hchutch

Do the Viking Kittens need to host a fundraiser?


16 posted on 02/25/2005 12:49:56 PM PST by Poohbah ("Hee Haw" was supposed to be a television show, not a political movement.)
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It's a 1200 year old wooden ship, the wood is probably rotting. The fact that it still exists at all shows they were excellent ship builders.


17 posted on 02/25/2005 12:50:45 PM PST by discostu (quis custodiet ipsos custodes)
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I can already hear it in a Scandinavian accent: "De hool ist stortin to breech, she canna take moor of dis captain!"
18 posted on 02/25/2005 12:51:06 PM PST by In veno, veritas
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"The Vikings must not have been as good ship-builders as the English..."

The Vikings' legacy is huge, compared to their small populations.

In WWII the allies landed at Normandy beaches. Named Normandy after the Norwegian vikings that conquered part of France, soon before conquering England.

Near the same time, they also conquered southern Italy and part of the Holy lands. Bari, Italy was their regional capital.

Now moving west, Canada was visited by Lief Eriksson/Erikssen in 1,000. He sailed from Iceland, via Greenland to Canada. Some feel he went down the coast, even to the future Peoples' Republic of Taxxachusettes.

Now olde Lief made charts of the seas he sailed. Later, Christoffe Columbus, the Italian, sailed for Spain. He used, among other aides, the charts from the northern voyagers.

Today Norway has 4 million people.

(Another day I'll tell of Swedish Vikings' exploits.)


19 posted on 02/25/2005 12:51:14 PM PST by truth_seeker
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The real irony is that the 1200 year warranty had JUST EXPIRED!!

Planned obsolescence no doubt.

22 posted on 02/25/2005 12:54:16 PM PST by keithtoo (Defeat Le' Partie' Democratique)
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VIking ship cracking up

Oh I thought this was about the football team.

24 posted on 02/25/2005 12:55:34 PM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: franksolich

Pretty cool.

26 posted on 02/25/2005 12:57:51 PM PST by stinkerpot65
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I've seen these ships. They are impressive.

28 posted on 02/25/2005 1:00:18 PM PST by mollynme (cogito, ergo freepum)
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BTTT


32 posted on 02/25/2005 1:04:03 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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They could replace the decayed timbers. After all, if 50% of the ship remains original wood, it is still the original ship, isn't it?


37 posted on 02/25/2005 1:19:33 PM PST by RightWhale (Please correct if cosmic balance requires.)
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It's just amazing that it exists at all.


39 posted on 02/25/2005 1:22:33 PM PST by jimfree (Freep and Ye Shall Find)
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