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VIking ship cracking up (Norway)
Aftenposten ^ | February 25, 2005 | tr. Nina Berglund

Posted on 02/25/2005 12:31:47 PM PST by franksolich

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News from the home front of Norway, our allies in the war against terror.

The Vikings must not have been as good ship-builders as the English, if this boat is so fragile that vaccuuming it causes harm.

One recalls a few years the English excavated a boat from the reign of Henry VIII, where it had laid in the bottom of the water for hundreds of years, and it was still reasonably intact.

On the Aftenposten web-site (the red link above), there is also news about the possible demise of the famous luxury passenger ship, the Norway. It was never in the same class as the Cunarders Queen Mary, the Queen Elizabeth, the Queen Elizabeth II, and the current Queen Mary II, but one assumes it was still a pretty good ship.

1 posted on 02/25/2005 12:31:48 PM PST by franksolich
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To: franksolich

Graffiti from the Viking age?

UFFDA!


2 posted on 02/25/2005 12:33:50 PM PST by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: franksolich
The Vikings must not have been as good ship-builders as the English, if this boat is so fragile that vaccuuming it causes harm. One recalls a few years the English excavated a boat from the reign of Henry VIII, where it had laid in the bottom of the water for hundreds of years, and it was still reasonably intact.

Not really fair. A viking longboat would be MUCH older than the reign of Henry VIII.

3 posted on 02/25/2005 12:36:12 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: franksolich

and just out of warranty, too, how much you wanna bet?


4 posted on 02/25/2005 12:37:56 PM PST by tumblindice (Our Founding Fathers: all conservative gun owners)
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To: franksolich
The Vikings must not have been as good ship-builders as the English, if this boat is so fragile that vaccuuming it causes harm.

I think taking it out of the water speeds up the decaying process.

5 posted on 02/25/2005 12:38:37 PM PST by frogjerk
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To: feefee; JLO; kingsurfer; wizr; cinives; Charles Henrickson; Eurotwit; tomjohn77; Theoden; ...

"Ping" for the Norway ping list.

My thanks to wizr of the Norway ping list, for sending that story about criminals turning themselves in, but alas they were Danish criminals in Denmark, not eastern Europeans trying to outwit wary Norwegian border guards.

This week, I plan to dig around and find the web-site (or even mailing address) of the Norwegian border guards, so as to send them my congratulations and admiration for the fine work they do, in protecting Norway.

Those on the Norway ping list, as usual, may expect a copy (via e-mail) of such correspondence, as in the past.

I remain mystified that one never reads stories about Norwegians smuggling beer, tobacco, and illegal substances into Denmark or Poland; it always seems the other way around.

Wonderful, law-abiding people, the Norwegians.


6 posted on 02/25/2005 12:38:59 PM PST by franksolich (ski jumping flop)
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No longer seaworthy? So much for the Norwegian Navy.
Proabably still better than the French though.
7 posted on 02/25/2005 12:39:47 PM PST by BitWielder1
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To: franksolich

bump


8 posted on 02/25/2005 12:41:13 PM PST by Constantine XIII
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To: ModelBreaker

You are right, sir; the English ship would be only half as old, or even less than that--there was a cerebral gap while I typed the comments (sometimes the fingers type faster than the brain thinks).

So I apologetically take that part back.


9 posted on 02/25/2005 12:42:19 PM PST by franksolich (ski jumping flop)
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To: franksolich

Thanks for the ping. If there were women buried in the ship, they must have been greatly admired, or, er....well loved.


10 posted on 02/25/2005 12:45:38 PM PST by wizr (Freedom ain't free.)
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To: franksolich
This is what happens when I let the wife do the housekeeping........the woman's a menace with a broom.


11 posted on 02/25/2005 12:47:15 PM PST by Viking2002 (Let's get the Insurrection started, already..............)
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To: franksolich

Don't be too hard on your ancestors. You are comparing a much older "clinker-built" galley to an early "Ship of the Line". Viking longboats were shallow draft vessels that could be sailed or rowed up narrow waterways & beached. Henry VIII was building a robust sailing vessel that was designed primarily to serve as a gun platform. 2 different animals and probably 400 years separate them.


12 posted on 02/25/2005 12:47:54 PM PST by Tallguy
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Franksolich, may I ask you to please be put on your Norway ping list?

Those scientists had BETTER be careful with that ship. :-)

13 posted on 02/25/2005 12:48:07 PM PST by Miss Behave (Beloved daughter of Miss Creant, super sister of danged Miss Ology, and proud mother of Miss Hap.)
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You know, that news story about those two Danish criminals turning themselves in, makes me question the cerebral capacities of the Danes, otherwise wonderful people.

But of course that "web-site survey" the other day showed that Norway appears to have the fewest number of criminals in Scandinavia and northern Europe, with the exception of the diligent law-abiding Faeroese.


14 posted on 02/25/2005 12:48:28 PM PST by franksolich (ski jumping flop)
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To: ModelBreaker
Not really fair. A viking longboat would be MUCH older than the reign of Henry VIII.

Not only that, but it is like comparing a DE to a BB (destroyer escort to a battleship). One light, built for speed and manuverability; the other heavy, built to take and deliver punishment.

15 posted on 02/25/2005 12:48:37 PM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?")
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To: franksolich; Zavien Doombringer; hchutch

Do the Viking Kittens need to host a fundraiser?


16 posted on 02/25/2005 12:49:56 PM PST by Poohbah ("Hee Haw" was supposed to be a television show, not a political movement.)
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It's a 1200 year old wooden ship, the wood is probably rotting. The fact that it still exists at all shows they were excellent ship builders.


17 posted on 02/25/2005 12:50:45 PM PST by discostu (quis custodiet ipsos custodes)
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I can already hear it in a Scandinavian accent: "De hool ist stortin to breech, she canna take moor of dis captain!"
18 posted on 02/25/2005 12:51:06 PM PST by In veno, veritas
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"The Vikings must not have been as good ship-builders as the English..."

The Vikings' legacy is huge, compared to their small populations.

In WWII the allies landed at Normandy beaches. Named Normandy after the Norwegian vikings that conquered part of France, soon before conquering England.

Near the same time, they also conquered southern Italy and part of the Holy lands. Bari, Italy was their regional capital.

Now moving west, Canada was visited by Lief Eriksson/Erikssen in 1,000. He sailed from Iceland, via Greenland to Canada. Some feel he went down the coast, even to the future Peoples' Republic of Taxxachusettes.

Now olde Lief made charts of the seas he sailed. Later, Christoffe Columbus, the Italian, sailed for Spain. He used, among other aides, the charts from the northern voyagers.

Today Norway has 4 million people.

(Another day I'll tell of Swedish Vikings' exploits.)


19 posted on 02/25/2005 12:51:14 PM PST by truth_seeker
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Actually, the Norwegian boat is about 700 years older, than that ship of Henry VIII.

<<just woke up; even messed up the headline to this posting.

What stymies me are two things--how would vaccuuming do any sort of discernible damage to such a thing, and why would a wooden boat be more likely to rot on dry land, than in the water (as one poster suggested)?

"Science" was never my strong suit.


20 posted on 02/25/2005 12:51:21 PM PST by franksolich (ski jumping flop)
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