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Terri Schiavo gets another 48 hours
The Scnitz Show | 23 Feb 05

Posted on 02/23/2005 1:02:48 PM PST by Alissa

On the radio as breaking so far!


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: criminalcoverup; euthanasia; forcedexit; judicialtyranny; medicalmurder; righttodie; righttokill; righttomurder; schiavo; slipperyslope; terri; terrischiavo
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To: Canadian Outrage

>IF Terri dies, Schiavo won't NEED to work.<

Heh, heh. If she dies, and he is convicted of her murder, he's gonna have a job in the pen, no matter what his net worth.


341 posted on 02/23/2005 5:10:22 PM PST by Darnright
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To: All
I
know the difference between a feeding tube and a respirator.
know a feeding tube is not a machine, it is, however, an implement or a tool.
understand when a feeding tube is removed, death is slow, by thirst, not starvation. That's not a pleasant fate.
consider the possibility she may be in excruciating pain without the ability to communicate those feelings to those around her.
have also been personally closer to a SIMILIAR medical condition than hopefully 99% of you will ever be.
There's also supposed to be a component of compassion to Christianity but I guess that's not as much fun as being judgemental considering the fate of a patient. There is short term suffering for eternal reward.
I shouldn't expect people to consider that either.
342 posted on 02/23/2005 5:11:37 PM PST by olde north church (Powerful is the hand that holds the keys to Heaven.)
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To: supercat; conservativebabe; All

Terri's bone scan:
http://www.ginzell.net/terri_schiavo_bone_scan.html

Terri's 1990 medical report:
http://www.hospicepatients.org/terri-schiavo-exam-1990.pdf


343 posted on 02/23/2005 5:11:58 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: olde north church

>Separate her from the mechanical means which keep her alive, God will let His will be known.<

Won't work with Greer issuing fatwa's against anyone feeding or watering her by mouth. Can't have her choking, don't ya know. She might die < /sarcasm>.


344 posted on 02/23/2005 5:12:56 PM PST by Darnright
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To: Dog Gone

I agree with you! How many of us thought about dying at that age?


345 posted on 02/23/2005 5:13:13 PM PST by ruoflaw
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To: Dog Gone; Annie03

I see your point, but you have to admit one thing. Since food and water wasn't considered life support at the time Terri allegedly made her remarks, she certainly couldn't have given informed consent to it, which is what is required for living wills. In the absence of a living will, why should informed consent not matter even more strongly?


346 posted on 02/23/2005 5:18:03 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: supercat
I guess the main point is that none of us know Terri's intent, if any. We do have her husband's testimony, which is suspicious, but it's the only evidence we have.

But it doesn't matter whether Michael is lying, unless Terri had specifically stated that she wanted to be kept alive in such a situation.

Michael is the guardian, and he gets to make decisions for her and we know which decision he's made. The ONLY way to defeat his wishes is to remove him as guardian. And that's the weakest part of his case and why he's fought that the hardest.

Michael is the presumptive guardian. He is her husband and that trumps parental rights in every state. In order to remove him as guardian, it's probably going to take a showing that he's incompetent, something that seems impossible under the current facts.

The folks who believe that he broke a lot of her bones before this incident could remove that guardianship if they could prove it, but that's an impossible task.

In my opinion, Michael holds the winning cards in the legal battle. Hopefully something new will transpire to change those legal odds.

347 posted on 02/23/2005 5:19:11 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Ohioan from Florida

Exactly!


348 posted on 02/23/2005 5:19:31 PM PST by ruoflaw
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To: cotton1706; Alissa; All

TERRI SHIAVO LIFE SPARED;
DCF BEGINS ABUSE INVESTIGATION
http://www.theempirejournal.com/02230591_terri_shiavo_life_spare.htm

Pattern Of Alleged Collusion, Bias In Guardianship Cases
Of Schiavo Judge
http://www.theempirejournal.com/22105002_pattern_of_alleged_coll.htm

WE can't post articles from Empire journal, just the link to the story.

Petition to Impeach Judge Greer
http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html


349 posted on 02/23/2005 5:21:25 PM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Violations of Florida Statutes ongoing!)
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To: Republic

I wish the Schindler family would make a show the next time they go to the hospice by being surrounded by a phalanx of huge bruly bodyguards in dark sunglasses .. to just give Michael a new way of looking at them. Change the dynamic .. change the reaction.


350 posted on 02/23/2005 5:23:45 PM PST by STARWISE (George Bush's pockets are full of EARNED CAPITAL, and he's in a spendin' mood ;-)
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To: Ohioan from Florida
Since food and water wasn't considered life support at the time Terri allegedly made her remarks, she certainly couldn't have given informed consent to it, which is what is required for living wills. In the absence of a living will, why should informed consent not matter even more strongly?

In the absence of firm evidence of what she wanted, the immediate family (not parents) or guardian would get to make the decision, so it really doesn't legally help Terri at all. Michael's statements about her wishes add to the PR factor, but they don't really help the judge make his decision.

351 posted on 02/23/2005 5:26:44 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: olde north church

Living with dignity? The disabled have no dignity?

FWIW, Michael isn't living with dignity, but nobody's trying to off him!


352 posted on 02/23/2005 5:26:56 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: Ohioan from Florida

There is a lot going on behind the scenes...

The fact that the judge claims to be reconsidering if Michael Schiavo is FIT to be guardian is a GREAT win--

but the battle is ongoing,...

He may very easily come back and say- "I have reviewed the files and I see no reason to change guardianship...

Now--

We must keep emailing the media and lesgislatures...

Am I allowed to post addresses and phone #'s on Freep?

I have Judge Greer's #.....

Also---

Watch Rita Cosby on FOX News on Saturday--- I have a feeling that the roof is going to blow......

JUST AN IDEA!


353 posted on 02/23/2005 5:29:36 PM PST by eeevil conservative (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for a good man to do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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To: conservativebabe

AMEN!! Corruption like this must be rooted out and EXPOSED.


354 posted on 02/23/2005 5:30:03 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South !)
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To: conservativebabe

I know a Catholic wedding isn't important to Michael, and the proof for that is that if it were important to him, Terri's murder wouldn't be a factor. It's a ruse to what's really important to Michael. Control. Power. Money. Convenience.


355 posted on 02/23/2005 5:30:20 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: Dog Gone

The fact that removal for Terri's feeding tube was filed in 1998- when food and water were NOT considered life support is VITAL to remember..

they held up the case until they could get the legislation passed in 1999....


356 posted on 02/23/2005 5:33:02 PM PST by eeevil conservative (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for a good man to do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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To: ken5050

HER parents ken. Michael Schiavo already starved and dehydrated both of HIS OWN parents.


357 posted on 02/23/2005 5:36:02 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South !)
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To: Larightgirl

Great. Terri touched my heart, too!


358 posted on 02/23/2005 5:36:28 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: eeevil conservative
True, but I don't think that gets you anywhere legally.

Yes, Michael didn't try to kill her until the law was passed allowing him to kill her legally.

That fact doesn't help our case.

359 posted on 02/23/2005 5:38:02 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Ohioan from Florida

I shall be back. I'm getting out of this office.


360 posted on 02/23/2005 5:39:29 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South !)
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