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Virginia Man Charged With Conspiring to Assassinate President Bush
AP/ABC ^ | Feb 22, 2005 | MATTHEW BARAKAT

Posted on 02/22/2005 7:38:01 AM PST by SoFloFreeper

Virginia man charged in alleged plot to assassinate Bush By MATTHEW BARAKAT

Associated Press Writer

ALEXANDRIA, Va. (AP) -- A former high school valedictorian in Virginia was charged Tuesday with conspiring to assassinate President Bush and conspiracy to support the al-Qaida terrorist network.

Ahmed Omar Abu Ali, 23, a U.S. citizen, made an initial appearance Tuesday in U.S. District Court. He claimed that he was tortured while detained in Saudi Arabia since June of 2003 and offered through his lawyer to show the judge his scars.

The indictment said that in 2002 and 2003 Abu Ali and an unidentified coconspirator discussed plans for Abu Ali to assassinate Bush. They discussed two scenarios, the indictment said, one in which Abu Ali "would get close enough to the president to shoot him on the street" and, alternatively, "an operation in which Abu Ali would detonate a car bomb."


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To: Timesink
Heads up to #213 and #220 for your NYT ping list. The NYT has a "six degrees of seperation" link with the guy charged with plotting to kill Bush.
221 posted on 02/22/2005 10:27:43 AM PST by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: hispanarepublicana
From her testimony at the Oct. 13 hearing....(typing as I watch) she says his calls were monitored by prison guards....whine, whine whine, blah, blah blah......mother started tape recording his phone calls; u.s. officials not heeding concerns.......father is employee of Saudi Arabian embassy; he has been imam of embassy mosque; degree of U.S. gov. control is "so powerful" that it can get another government to do things (and this is a problem...why?).....May 2004, an official tells Ali's father to pressure U.S. officials.....lawsuit filed.....wants Saudi Arabia to "liberate itself from the superpower that is America" (isn't that treason?)......lost faith that U.S. officials would take action.....knows that people like "Congressman Conyers will help us"(why don't we try calling Conyers today?)......father wrote to the consulate....consulate blew it off......so what did Ahmed do to deserve this?......closed federal grand jury convened in DC, and they subpoenaed Ahmed's friends and family; may, 2004, FBI told family there was no Grand Jury evidence to indict.....U.S. govt. continues to unlawfuly pressure Saudi.....says he was tortured into confession in Saudi.....a friend (didn't understand pronounciation of his name) studying in Saudi was arrested one week before Ahmed and brought to the U.S......brings up Abu Graib.....something about a "Paintball Case"...(?)......says Ahmed experienced injury to his hands....says they took his fingernails off......says he's the "man in the iron mask"......Saudi Arabia is "our puppuet"...is doing our bidding......
222 posted on 02/22/2005 10:29:20 AM PST by hispanarepublicana (I was Lucy Ramirez when being Lucy Ramirez was't cool.)
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To: jriemer

Thanks, I will be off line most of today and tomorrow. However, N Va is like a little old Iraq, current Syria and Iran for these Islamofascists.


223 posted on 02/22/2005 10:31:32 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The MSM has been a WMD, Weapon of Mass Disinformation for the Rats for at least 4 decades.)
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To: jriemer; hispanarepublicana

From hispanarepublicana's link in post 46:

http://www.rights101oregon.org/news.htm


June 11, 2003 -- At the behest of the US Government, Mr. Abu Ali was arrested by Saudi security officers while he was taking his final exams at Medina University.

June 11, 2003 -- On the same date, in Falls Church, Virginia, more than 15 armed FBI agents raided the home of Mr. Abu Ali’s parents. They broke doors; frightened the children; and took video games belonging to the five-year-old son, family magazines, and other unrelated items. According to the search warrant, they were looking for items related to the seven defendants in the U.S. vs. Royer paintball case, and for any violations of the Neutrality Act. During the raid, FBI agents told Mr. Abu Ali’s family that he had been arrested by the Saudis in an investigation of the May 12 Riyadh bombings.


224 posted on 02/22/2005 10:31:57 AM PST by flutters (God Bless The USA)
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To: martin_fierro

An honor student...Is that little mention of his being valedictorian supposed to make him sympathetic or likeable? Sheesh.


225 posted on 02/22/2005 10:36:44 AM PST by pharmamom (Ping me, Baby.)
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To: 1Old Pro

Lapland...that's the real hot-bed of terrorist training. They are developing reindeer-bombs that can penetrate concrete bunkers.


226 posted on 02/22/2005 10:38:44 AM PST by pharmamom (Ping me, Baby.)
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To: ScarTissue
Regardless of what you think about Muslims are Islam, the fact is that only a small fraction--a few thousand--of 1.2 billion Muslims are terrorists.

And that does not change one bit what the actually koran teaches. All that proves is that only a small fraction have the will to carry out the teachings of the koran while the other 1.2 billion support them (because they sure as hell are not fighting them) with their money and hearts. Sorry, but the West can actually read, and because we can read we learn and understand what the religion is actually teaching and now know it to be the enemy.

The rag head comment was not pc or nice, but it was not racial either.... it was a derogatory reference to the practitioners of a religion of hatred and death. Somehow I do not think you would find fault with derogatory phrases used against the klu klux klan, nazis or satanist, they definitely deserve derision. Like it or not, people have figured out exactly what islam is and teaches and it deserves that exact same derision. Otherwise we desirve our fate at its hands if we do not fight it.

227 posted on 02/22/2005 10:41:20 AM PST by Lady Heron
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To: Alouette

"I'm waiting for CAIR to condemn this as a plot to make Islam look bad."

Ain't that the truth!


228 posted on 02/22/2005 10:41:41 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (tired of all the shucking and jiving)
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To: SoFloFreeper

The pro-terrorist Democrats have a new hero. Maybe they'll invite him , via video link from his prison cell, to the next Democrat National Convention.


229 posted on 02/22/2005 10:43:22 AM PST by MisterRepublican (Liberalism kills.)
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To: ScarTissue
Isn't this thread about a moo plotting to assassinate an American president??....
230 posted on 02/22/2005 10:46:19 AM PST by Getsmart64 (..)
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To: cake_crumb
birthplace of Wahhabism, which is the source of most Islamic terrorism today.

How quickly we forget the 70's and 80's and shiite terrorist supported by Iran. I think they still support terrorism against Israel today. The koran is the koran and the fundamental teachings are the same through out all branches of islam.

231 posted on 02/22/2005 10:47:45 AM PST by Lady Heron
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To: SoFloFreeper

That's a great immigration system where a terrorist can become a citizen but don't G-d forbid a nice Canadian girl get the opportunity to serve in the US military.


232 posted on 02/22/2005 10:47:45 AM PST by SweetPilotofCanuckistan
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To: ScarTissue
I do agree that terrorism and violence is more prevalent against Muslims than other groups, though.

Excuse me????

233 posted on 02/22/2005 10:50:23 AM PST by Getsmart64 (..)
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To: ScarTissue
There are some "Christian Identity" type groups here that encourage violence, for instance.

Denounced loud and clear by the Christian community.

235 posted on 02/22/2005 10:51:37 AM PST by Lady Heron
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To: SoFloFreeper

Yah, as soon as I read "Virginia Man", I assumed it was an Muslim.


236 posted on 02/22/2005 10:53:25 AM PST by Dead Dog (T)
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To: Mr. Mojo
And I suspect most readers can ascertain the religion of a guy named "Ahmed Omar Abu Ali."

Amish?

238 posted on 02/22/2005 10:54:51 AM PST by Semi Civil Servant (Edward R. Murrow, call your office.)
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To: HarveyBirdman
Everything you just posted is wrong in some way. Where shall I begin?

The Crusades were IN RESPONSE to Muslim aggression. Jews and Christians lived in Jerusalem and the Holy Land for six centuries (longer for the Jews) before the Muslims came along. Oh, and Spain was Christian, too, before the Moors hit it. Did we mention Turkey? It was Constantinople before it was Istanbul.

The numbers you cite for Iraqi citizen deaths have been proven false...you are relying on a statistical analysis that has no merit.

While a Christian may do evil things, the New Testament nowhere encourages killing others and assassinating leaders. The Koran, on the other hand....

The 9/11 commission stated there were no FORMAL ties between Iraq and 9/11. The Duelpher report confirms that there were plenty of contacts between Sadaam Hussein and Al-Qaeda.

Don't come on hear and spout lies. I am but a mere amateur compared to some of the folks on this thread and they will FRY your hide.

239 posted on 02/22/2005 10:56:16 AM PST by pharmamom (Ping me, Baby.)
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To: pharmamom

Sheesh. Hear = here.


240 posted on 02/22/2005 10:57:47 AM PST by pharmamom (Ping me, Baby.)
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