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1 posted on 02/21/2005 9:44:39 AM PST by FNU LNU
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An archaeologist using the tactics of a Creationist. Pathetic.


2 posted on 02/21/2005 9:47:12 AM PST by orionblamblam
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You just can't trust scientists!


3 posted on 02/21/2005 9:49:37 AM PST by mlc9852
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4 posted on 02/21/2005 9:49:51 AM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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...anatomically modern humans and Neanderthals had co-existed, and perhaps even had children together.

Of course they did, they're called DEMOCs in the US and SPD in Germany.

5 posted on 02/21/2005 9:52:26 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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Scholars are not like apples in a barrel.

Muleteam1

6 posted on 02/21/2005 9:55:59 AM PST by Muleteam1 (Evolution is the perfect perpetual motion machine.)
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"At the end of the day it was about ambition."

This pretty much says it all.


8 posted on 02/21/2005 10:00:35 AM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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"...German police began investigating the professor for fraud, following allegations that he had tried to sell the university's 278 chimpanzee skulls for $70,000 to a US dealer...."


11 posted on 02/21/2005 10:05:34 AM PST by hoot2
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It's a shame he didn't do it at an American University where we have academic freedom and the first amendment.

He would be promoted to the head of the department.


14 posted on 02/21/2005 10:09:11 AM PST by Soliton (Alone with everyone else.)
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Good find FNU. Looks like Neanderthal and Homo Sapiens didn't mix. Teddy Kennedy must have been a one-off.


23 posted on 02/21/2005 10:22:40 AM PST by agere_contra
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The scandal only came to light when Prof Protsch was caught trying to sell his department's entire chimpanzee skull collection to the United States.

Don't mess with the U.S. He may have been caught because Americans questioned this scame.

People like Professor Reiner Protsch von Zieten and Bill Clinton are giving cigar smokers a bad name.

31 posted on 02/21/2005 10:33:37 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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The title of this article is obviously ridiculous. Science has not built its understanding of the modern history of mankind on the work of one crackpot. Science doesn't move forward based on one or two observations. Findings must be replicated by scientists from various parts of the world using their own equipment and measurments etc. Furthermore peers review the findings with a healthy skeptical eye.

Creationists don't understand how science works, only a creationist would ever think that science would have to be changed based on identifying one guy as a fraud. That's how I know a creationist wrote this headline.


33 posted on 02/21/2005 10:35:49 AM PST by Rippin
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Ping


34 posted on 02/21/2005 10:37:38 AM PST by Unam Sanctam
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YEC INTREP - Anthropology - S&T


38 posted on 02/21/2005 10:40:08 AM PST by LiteKeeper (Secularization of America is happening)
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Now.

Let's see if Discover Magazine, Scientific American, or the other anti-captipalistic/anti-Bush/pro-evolution "secular scientific press corpse" covers this fraud: and the other fraudulent scientific opinions they've been promulgating to promote liberal politics.
47 posted on 02/21/2005 10:55:14 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Kerry's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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Nobody knows who is lying, what is a lie and what is not. So let's just admit it and be honest atheists living in the now. There is no fee to join, I will never ask you for money, time is limited.

Some mormons (morons?) on bicycles came to my door (what's with the bicycle schtick?, the same guys drive an SUV at night when no one is looking), waste of time, seemed like pretend baptists, they are the real enemy. I think I will take a cruise to the Gallapagos and Machu Picchu next year and I will party all the way.

52 posted on 02/21/2005 11:00:23 AM PST by Step_Into_the_Void (Ernst Mayr, RIP)
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63 posted on 02/21/2005 11:11:17 AM PST by Lady Jag (Honor)
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Everyone is missing a rather astounding deduction that is almost inevitable from the way this is presented:

The skull fragment discovered in a peat bog near Hamburg was more than 36,000 years old - and was the vital missing link between modern humans and Neanderthals.

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Prof Protsch's work appeared to prove that anatomically modern humans and Neanderthals had co-existed, and perhaps even had children together.

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His discovery appeared to show that Neanderthals had spread much further north than was previously known. But his university inquiry was told that a crucial Hamburg skull fragment, which was believed to have come from the world's oldest German, a Neanderthal known as Hahnhöfersand Man, was actually a mere 7,500 years old

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Another of the professor's sensational finds, "Binshof-Speyer" woman, lived in 1,300 BC and not 21,300 years ago, as he had claimed, while "Paderborn-Sande man" (dated at 27,400 BC) only died a couple of hundred years ago, in 1750.

OK, he got the dates wrong.  But do the bone fragments still belong to Neanderthal?  Including the ones from 5,500 B.C., 1,300 B.C. and 1750 A.D.?

If so we have a HUGH and SERIES discovery of monumental proportions.

Everything I can find says that Neanderthal became extinct around 30,000 years ago.  Does this article say that they survived till as recently as 1750?  Even redating their extinction to 5,500 B.C. (7,500 years ago) would be a discovery worthy of a Nobel Prize.

Or is it simply as badly written as most other MSM tripe about science?

Enquiring minds want to know.  And they'll probably believe whatever drivel Dan Blather and Peter Jennings shove down their throats.

71 posted on 02/21/2005 11:20:16 AM PST by Phsstpok ("When you don't know where you are, but you don't care, you're not lost, you're exploring.")
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Maybe this prof can team up with Ward Churchill and make a double header.


75 posted on 02/21/2005 12:19:36 PM PST by ViLaLuz
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Bump for later reading.


88 posted on 02/21/2005 1:37:33 PM PST by Kevin OMalley (No, not Freeper#95235, Freeper #1165: Charter member, What Was My Login Club.)
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91 posted on 02/21/2005 1:44:20 PM PST by Incorrigible (immanentizing the eschaton)
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