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Panelists decry Bush science policies (Global warming whiner alert)
Kansas City Star ^ | 2/20/2005 | Associated Press

Posted on 02/20/2005 7:51:38 PM PST by LeeHarvey

WASHINGTON - The voice of science is being stifled in the Bush administration, with fewer scientists heard in policy discussions and money for research and advanced training being cut, according to panelists at a national science meeting.

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Rosina Bierbaum, dean of the University of Michigan School of Natural Resources and Environment, said the Bush administration has cut scientists out of some of the policy-making processes, particularly on environmental issues.

"In previous administrations, scientists were always at the table when regulations were being developed," she said. "Science never had the last voice, but it had a voice."

Issues on global warming, for instance, that achieved a firm scientific consensus in earlier years are now being questioned by Bush policy makers. Proven, widely accepted research is being ignored or disputed, she said.

Government policy papers issued prior to the Bush years moved beyond questioning the validity of global warming science and addressed ways of confronting or dealing with climate change.

Under Bush, said Bierbaum, the questioning of the proven science has become more important than finding ways to cope with climate change.

One result of such actions, said Neal Lane of Rice University, a former director of the National Science Foundation, is that "we don't really have a policy right now to deal with what everybody agrees is a serious problem."

Among scientists, said Lane, "there is quite a consensus in place that the Earth is warming and that humans are responsible for a considerable part of that" through the burning of fossil fuels.

And the science is clear, he said, that without action to control fossil fuel use, the warming will get worse and there will be climate events that "our species has not experienced before."

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(Excerpt) Read more at kansascity.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: budget; bush; bush43; environment; epa; globalwarming; mars; moon; nasa; nsf; rd; research; science; term2
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Liberal tenured professors whine about lack of government hand-outs.

My favorite line:

"Moon and Mars is basically going to eat everybody's lunch"

Good! It's about time. :-) Maybe Burt Rutan can kick some more a$$ this year.

BTW, I have yet to hear any of these global warming idiots point a finger at the Sun. Have they missed the news about solar flares, radiation, and geomagnetic storms? Thanks to SpaceWeather.com for keeping us mere mortals informed.

1 posted on 02/20/2005 7:51:51 PM PST by LeeHarvey
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To: LeeHarvey

Earlier WAAAAAAAAAAAAmbulance call...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1347490/posts


2 posted on 02/20/2005 7:57:56 PM PST by JennysCool (I was so naive as a kid I used to sneak behind the barn and do nothing. -Johnny Carson)
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To: JennysCool

Oops. Good catch. I had missed all the keywords in that previous story...


3 posted on 02/20/2005 8:00:33 PM PST by LeeHarvey
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The headlines were completely different. I just had it in my pings and thought folks might be interested in the earlier comments.


4 posted on 02/20/2005 8:03:35 PM PST by JennysCool (I was so naive as a kid I used to sneak behind the barn and do nothing. -Johnny Carson)
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Among scientists, said Lane, "there is quite a consensus in place that the Earth is warming and that humans are responsible for a considerable part of that" through the burning of fossil fuels.

This is probably why the WH is keeping alleged "scientists" away from the table.

Biased computer models, and climate theories, are no match for real, peer reviewed, science.

When even the liberals admit that Kyoto will do nothing, and is merely symbolic, it's time to give the junk scientists the boot, and keep them away from serious climate discussions.

5 posted on 02/20/2005 8:04:18 PM PST by Noachian (We're all one judge away from tyranny.)
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Issues on global warming, for instance, that achieved a firm scientific consensus in earlier years are now being questioned by Bush policy makers.

I knew there was something about that Bush guy that I liked.

6 posted on 02/20/2005 8:06:03 PM PST by stevem
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..."Under Bush (Damn it), said Bierbaum, the questioning of the proven (??????) science has become more important than finding ways to cope with climate change.

(* emphasis correctly added)

Yes IT need's to be questioned. Proven ? By Who?

The LAST thing we need to pour endless funds into is JUNK SCIENCE !

7 posted on 02/20/2005 8:06:06 PM PST by austinmark (If GOD Had Been A Liberal, We Wouldn't Have Had The Ten Commandments- We'd Have The Ten Suggestions.)
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I might take the global warming science a little more seriously if it weren't so closely aligned to what I consider a very blindly cultish enivironmentalism. Most environmentalists have some vague belief that humans are evolving toward some sort of vague "sustainable" utopian ideal. And to them questioning the science of global warming is the Christian equivalent of questioning hell. They need the fear of global warming to keep people in line.


8 posted on 02/20/2005 8:23:00 PM PST by Sally II
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Could this be because some scientists tends to be more of a politician than people of science?

Look at Global Warming - Some say there isn't - other say there is. Lately scientists are like "shrinks" who can not even decide when a person is crazy.

Scientists should act like engineers. When they publish something it should be factual within acceptable standard deviations.

But when scientists using the same approach and ingredients can not even agree with the results, then I don't blame the President for ignoring them.

Am I wrong?


9 posted on 02/20/2005 9:06:03 PM PST by El Oviedo
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