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Churchgoers Ordered to Pray For Camilla
TIMESONLINE ^ | February 20, 2005 | Christopher Morgan

Posted on 02/19/2005 5:55:25 PM PST by Scenic Sounds

CHURCHGOERS are to be commanded by royal warrant to pray for Camilla Parker Bowles as part of regular Sunday services after her marriage to the Prince of Wales on April 8.

The Queen is planning to issue the warrant in formal recognition of her new daughter-in-law’s status as one of the most high-ranking members of the royal family.

At the moment, only the Queen, the Duke of Edinburgh and Charles are individually remembered by the Church of England in state prayers during services of matins and evensong.

Meanwhile doubts have been raised by senior lawyers over the legality of Charles and Camilla’s marriage. The couple are due to marry in the register office at Windsor Guildhall.

In a paper submitted to Lord Goldsmith, the attorney- general, Stephen Cretney QC, an emeritus fellow of All Souls College, Oxford, argues that members of the royal family are barred by a 19th century law from marrying in civil ceremonies.

The decision to change the prayers is controversial on two counts. The Queen removed the name of Diana, the late Princess of Wales, from the list after her divorce in 1996, at the same time as she withdrew her style of royal highness. The decision was attacked by Diana’s circle as “spiteful and humiliating”.

Some churchgoers may also object to praying for the woman whose adultery played a part in the divorce and who is not allowed to remarry in church.

The new wording to be used in the prayers is expected to state: “Almighty God, the fountain of all goodness, we humbly beseech thee to bless Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, Charles, Prince of Wales, and the Duchess of Cornwall.” There is a separate prayer for the Queen.

Yesterday senior church sources disclosed, after informal contacts with Buckingham Palace, that the warrant would be issued. The palace said: “The granting of a royal warrant to incorporate the duchess into state prayers will be done in consultation between the church and the palace. That consultation has still to be held.”

Lord Puttnam, a friend of Diana, said he found the decision “a little puzzling” and said he would discuss it with bishops in the House of Lords.

Opposition will also come from groups in the church that remain opposed to the remarriage of Charles and Parker Bowles. Two bodies, Church Society and Reform, believe Rowan Williams, the Archbishop of Canterbury, was wrong to approve of the arrangements.

Senior lawyers have also voiced opposition.

They include Cretney, whose view is supported by one former attorney-general and two other former senior law officers. He argues that the Marriage Act 1836 disallows members of the royal family from marrying in a civil ceremony.

This exclusion, Cretney argues, was updated in every subsequent amending statute, including the Marriage Act 1949 which governs civil weddings today.

Cretney recommends a “simple bill putting beyond doubt the capacity of members of the royal family to contract civil marriages”.

Sources close to Goldsmith said he would respond directly to Cretney but that there could be no comment on whether the palace had asked for fresh advice.

Paul Williamson, a parish priest at St George’s, Hanworth, west London, will lodge a formal objection tomorrow to force the palace to publish its legal advice.

This weekend one former attorney-general endorsed Cretney’s argument. He said: “If I was advising the Queen now, I think I’d have the legislation clarified. It could be passed through both houses in about five minutes.”

The wedding has already been dogged by one legal hitch. It had to be switched from Windsor Castle to the Guildhall because officials failed to advise Charles and Camilla about the difficulties of obtaining a licence for the castle to host the marriage.

The palace remains adamant, however, that the wedding was endorsed ahead of the announcement by four independent experts.

Goldsmith will now consider whether the government may need to put a bill through parliament to allow the civil ceremony.

However, Lord Falconer, the lord chancellor, indicated last night that the government was content with the legality of the marriage, saying the prohibition on royal civil marriage ended in 1949.

He said the government had been thorough, ministers were confident of the ceremony’s legality, and they wished to put no bar in the way of the wedding.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: britain; britishroyals; camilla; elizabethii; england; greatbritain; princecharles; queenelizabethii; royalfamily; royals; royalwedding; scotland; thequeen; uk; unitedkingdom; wales
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To: Scenic Sounds

the CoE is dead....


41 posted on 02/20/2005 5:36:00 PM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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To: Scenic Sounds

I think the queen said to pray Camilla doesn't get caught wearing a lamp shade on her head.

42 posted on 02/20/2005 7:47:15 PM PST by World'sGoneInsane (LET NO ONE BE FORGOTTEN, LET NO ONE FORGET)
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To: Scenic Sounds

If the Church of England isn't going to recognize the marriage, how can Camilla be included in the official prayers?


43 posted on 02/20/2005 8:09:49 PM PST by BlessedBeGod (George W. Bush -- The Terror of the Terrorists)
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To: BlessedBeGod
If the Church of England isn't going to recognize the marriage, how can Camilla be included in the official prayers?

I really wish people would quit looking for loopholes here. We're dealing with a Royal Warrant commanding prayer for Camilla and folks seem to be trying to read it like it was a mortgage that they are trying to avoid.

44 posted on 02/20/2005 8:44:25 PM PST by Scenic Sounds (Sí, estamos libres sonreír otra vez - ahora y siempre.)
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To: isthisnickcool
I pray she and Charles wake up one day and no longer look like horses...

...they rode in on...

46 posted on 02/20/2005 8:58:23 PM PST by kstewskis (you have to have a mind to lose it...)
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Pray that no one smiteth her with a tampon on her first walk about?


47 posted on 02/21/2005 6:23:56 PM PST by Taph
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