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Hell on Earth
The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review ^ | Sunday, February 13, 2005 | Richard Robbins

Posted on 02/13/2005 10:36:31 AM PST by Willie Green

Sixty years can't dim the memory -- not if the memory is of a hell on earth known as Iwo Jima.

An 8-square-mile dot in the middle of the vast Pacific, Iwo Jima -- literally, Sulfur Island -- tested the mettle of three Marine divisions (70,000 men) hurled against the island's 22,000 heavily dug-in Japanese defenders in the final months of World War II.

The fight for the island, which got under way in earnest on Feb. 19, 1945, represented not so much a turning point in the Pacific war as confirmation of the violent, last-ditch nature of Japanese opposition.

By killing and wounding so many Americans, Iwo Jima -- and a few months later, Okinawa -- led policy makers later in 1945 to an inescapable conclusion about the planned invasion of Japan in the spring of 1946: better to drop the bomb and unleash the nuclear genie than permit the slaughter and maiming of countless millions, including an estimated 1 million American dead and wounded.

The U.S. offensive in World War II, drawing an ever-tighter bead on the Japanese mainland, exploded in unsurpassed bloodletting on Iwo Jima. As novelist John P. Marquand, covering the invasion for Life magazine, said at the time: "About the dead, whether Japanese or American, there was one thing in common. They died with the greatest possible violence. Nowhere in the Pacific have I seen such badly mangled bodies."

(Excerpt) Read more at pittsburghlive.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Japan
KEYWORDS: anniversary; history; iwojima; marines; militaryhistory; usmc; veterans; wwii

1 posted on 02/13/2005 10:36:31 AM PST by Willie Green
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To: Willie Green
Excellent article Willie.
2 posted on 02/13/2005 10:42:28 AM PST by investigateworld (Babies= A sure sign He hasn't given up on mankind!)
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To: Willie Green

Good read.


3 posted on 02/13/2005 10:49:29 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Willie Green

Ever read, "Flags of Our fathers?"


4 posted on 02/13/2005 10:54:48 AM PST by corlorde (Without the home of the brave, there would be no land of the free)
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To: corlorde

No, I'm afraid I haven't.


5 posted on 02/13/2005 10:57:56 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green

7,000 Americans died in the effort to capture a tiny island. It sort of puts our losses in Iraq into perspective.


6 posted on 02/13/2005 11:02:25 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Willie Green
It is a very moving tribute written by James Bradley about the men who raised the flag, in the famous photo... definitely check it out, you won't be disappointed.
7 posted on 02/13/2005 11:04:02 AM PST by corlorde (Without the home of the brave, there would be no land of the free)
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To: Willie Green

Thanks for posting this article. It's an excellent read. My Dad was a Marine and on a troop ship to the Japan invasion when the bomb was dropped on Hiroshima in August. I did't realize that Iwo led to the decision to use the bomb to end the war. Without the sacrifices of the Marines at Iwo, I doubt my Dad would have come home, and I probably wouldn't be here today.


8 posted on 02/13/2005 11:22:21 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Dog Gone
Same for the battle for Peleliu. One of the bloodiest battles for the Marine Corps in terms of loss.

235 men of one Regiment [Everett Pope's] went in and four days later only 8 returned from the fierce battle for what is now know as Pope Ridge.
9 posted on 02/13/2005 11:45:01 AM PST by KimmyJaye (Susan Estrich: A face for radio and a voice for pantomime.)
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To: Willie Green

had math professor at ASU that was in that battle. lights went out one day and he was gone. next day he didn't say a word nor did the class.


10 posted on 02/13/2005 11:53:16 AM PST by camas
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To: KimmyJaye
sketch of floor plan
This sketch shows the floor plan of the largest and most elaborate tunnel system discovered by Marines on Peleliu. It was prepared by Japanese naval construction troops and was so elaborate the Americans thought it might be a phosphate mine.

11 posted on 02/13/2005 11:56:41 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone

Thanks so much for the posting of the map of the amazing tunnels. My son went to the 60th anniversary of the battle in Sept and was able to explore the many caves.

Are you familiar with the battle for Peleliu?


12 posted on 02/13/2005 12:17:36 PM PST by KimmyJaye (Susan Estrich: A face for radio and a voice for pantomime.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Same here. No A-bombs, no me. My dad flew Army Air Force fighters ahead of bombers in N. Africa, Italy and the Pacific. Went right up that chain. I can remember him saying Eniwetok. A couple of his friends were helping remodel our house in 1958, I was 10, and they finished up talking over beers about Iwo Jima. I heard them say the high command determined from Iwo Jima they'd have to fight to the end of Japan before they would surrender, so they dropped the bomb twice and it was over. He said there was no doubt he would not have survived a lengthy, conventional attack on Japan.
He also said Okinawa was great after it was cleared. The Navy took it over and they had the best food.
At one guy's urging, my mom got out all my dad's commendations and explained them to us and after that the war was never mentioned in my house again. I don't think he liked that last part. Good man, he died in March at 89.


13 posted on 02/13/2005 12:39:06 PM PST by jjmcgo
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To: Willie Green

I went to high school in South Texas, under a principal who was a Marine and fought at Iwo Jima. He was, IMO at the time, the toughest man who ever lived.

The only time I ever screwed up around him, he actually picked me up by my shirt collar with one hand and chewed me out royally. After that I was a model student.


14 posted on 02/13/2005 12:59:22 PM PST by Marauder (I drink to make other people more interesting.)
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To: Willie Green
William Manchester called Iwo... “that evil little island”. But that doesn't even come close.

I believe 'Manila John' Basilone was lost on Iwo... just one of 6000. If we had the atomic bomb at that time, Iwo and Okinawa would have been excellent targets. Such a loss of life!

15 posted on 02/13/2005 1:06:12 PM PST by johnny7 (“It's not revenge he wants... it's a 'reckonin!” -Doc Holliday, Tombstone)
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To: KimmyJaye
No, not at all. The website where I got the map was pretty informative, but I'm not sure I'd even heard of the battle before your post.

I'm not sure why. It was very significant.

16 posted on 02/13/2005 1:20:49 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Willie Green
Nowhere in the Pacific have I seen such badly mangled bodies."

We saw a tv show about Iwo. It mentioned that when they finally got a foothold and the tanks came in, they just rolled over any bodies that were in the way. Crushed them to nothing. It could be one of those in the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier.

17 posted on 02/13/2005 1:57:40 PM PST by eccentric (aka baldwidow)
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To: Willie Green

read later


18 posted on 02/13/2005 5:18:46 PM PST by Tunehead54 (I'm not winking - this way I only have to hit the shift key once - so I'm lazy! ;-)
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To: Willie Green

Thank you for this. I've saved it to read more carefully later when I'm awake.


19 posted on 02/13/2005 5:21:59 PM PST by A knight without armor
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To: Willie Green

Get the book, read the book, great book. "Flags of Our Fathers".


20 posted on 02/18/2005 1:41:18 PM PST by HankReardon
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