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NYC:New York Hits Online Sellers of Cigarettes
New York Times.com ^ | 2-12-05 | IAN URBINA

Posted on 02/12/2005 2:20:01 PM PST by SheLion

Concerned about the booming trade in online cigarette sales, New York state officials have begun using a variety of techniques to clamp down on the trade, saying New York City alone is losing more than $75 million a year in uncollected tax revenues because of the sales.

In recent weeks, Attorney General Eliot Spitzer has been pushing local postal officials and private carriers to stop delivering cigarettes bought online. His office has also recently begun negotiations with credit card companies to block transactions of online cigarettes.

These efforts were given added push recently as local officials from the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives met with credit card executives to alert them to the various ways in which these transactions are illegal.

"The tone was very cordial and unthreatening," said a city official who participated in the presentation three weeks ago at the bureau's office in Brooklyn. "But in the end they made it crystal clear that now that the credit card companies understood the law, they would be held accountable for processing these transactions."

Mr. Spitzer emphasized that the effort has as much to do with health as money. "These sales present a significant threat to public health because they provide easy access to cheap cigarettes, which increases smoking rates, particularly among children," he said. "These illegal sales also evade state tax requirements."

Whatever their motivation, city and state officials are broadening their efforts to eradicate the business.

Two weeks ago, a judge ruled in one of the city's four lawsuits against online sellers that the city can file a revised racketeering lawsuit against Internet cigarette sellers. The ruling was the first time a federal judge has indicated that Internet sellers can be charged under federal racketeering law, said Eric Proshansky, the city's chief lawyer on the case.

After gleaning the names and the addresses from a Virginia lawsuit against one online cigarette company, the city began sending letters last month to more than 2,600 New Yorkers who officials say bought tax-free cigarettes. The letters, sent to those who bought cigarettes online from July 2002 to April 2004, give the alleged violators 30 days to pay or face interest and penalties of up to $200 a carton.

In November, local law enforcement seized 300,000 cartons of illegal cigarettes at Kennedy International Airport. Joseph G. Green, a spokesman for the A.T.F., said that the seizure was the culmination of a yearlong investigation jointly conducted by the Queens district attorney's office; federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives; postal inspectors; and city and state tax and finance officials.

Sam Miller, a spokesman for the city's Department of Finance, said that the city loses more than $75 million a year as people duck local taxes by purchasing online. But the crackdown has drawn some criticism.

"New York is simply trying to engage in economic protectionism by limiting cigarette sales to brick-and-mortar sellers," said James L. Bikoff, a lawyer who represents several Internet tobacco sellers. "Most of the folks who are in the online cigarette business are small outfits and they typically advise the consumer to check with their own city and state's laws regarding tax rules."

New York City smokers pay the highest cigarette taxes in the country, as the state charges a $1.50 tax per pack and the city adds an additional $1.50 tax per pack. A carton of cigarettes in the city costs about $70, including $33.30 in excise and sales taxes. Online, cigarettes cost as little as $15 a carton.

Thus far, the city and the state have met with mixed results in their efforts to control the online traffic in cigarettes.

Some banks that process MasterCard transactions have begun blocking sales from certain Internet tobacco sites to customers, said Joshua Peirez, a senior vice president at MasterCard. But other banks do not. American Express currently has no policy that blocks Internet cigarette sales, said Christine Elliott, a spokeswoman for the company.

After sending a letter to credit card executives in August, Mr. Spitzer joined several other state attorneys general to send another letter pressing credit card companies to stop the transactions.

Both letters cited several reasons for the failure of Internet tobacco sellers to comply with applicable laws, including that they make no effort to verify the age of their customers and fail to report shipment of cigarettes to the tobacco tax administrator of the state into which shipments are made.

While the United Parcel Service and other private carriers have been more open to the idea of blocking the delivery of these packages, postal officials have balked at pressure from Mr. Spitzer's office, claiming that they do not have the legal authority to stop the shipments, according to city officials who have been part of the discussions. But Mr. Spitzer's office contends that the postal service indeed has the authority under federal laws that prohibit mail fraud schemes, according to a letter sent by the office.

New York State passed a law that took effect in 2003 prohibiting online and mail-order sales of cigarettes to its residents. The law was largely intended to curb tax evasion and under-age smoking, since many online cigarette sites do virtually nothing to verify the age of customers.

Efforts to stop online sales are complicated, since Internet sites are sometimes based abroad and are therefore difficult to prosecute. City officials estimate that about 80 percent of the online cigarette sales come from sites that claim Indian affiliation, which for sovereignty reasons claim immunity from laws like the Jenkins Act.


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To: SheLion
Two weeks ago, a judge ruled in one of the city's four lawsuits against online sellers that the city can file a revised racketeering lawsuit against Internet cigarette sellers. The ruling was the first time a federal judge has indicated that Internet sellers can be charged under federal racketeering law, said Eric Proshansky, the city's chief lawyer on the case.
Do you have a link or a cite for this decision?

Also, is there a federal law that allows the states to interfere with interstate tobacco commerce?

141 posted on 02/12/2005 5:25:32 PM PST by Sandy
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To: EGPWS

It turned me into a girl!


142 posted on 02/12/2005 5:26:14 PM PST by firebrand
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To: TexasCowboy

If you favor leeches and maggots, I rest my case.


143 posted on 02/12/2005 5:27:31 PM PST by firebrand
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To: firebrand

I have worked out more annual budgets than I care to recall - but NEVER based them on ONE aspect of projected revenues. Which is what balancing state budgets by increasing tobacco taxes does.


I won't be attending CPAC this year. Based upon my projections for my 2005 budget, I had to choose between CPAC and the FReeper Ball.............I chose the Ball. I could not justify relying on a posibility of an infusion of cash to cover my expenses.


144 posted on 02/12/2005 5:31:09 PM PST by Gabz (Anti-smoker gnatzies...small minds buzzing in your business..............SWAT'EM)
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To: firebrand
It just seems to me that breathing is one of the most important things you do,...

Profound statement.

Your enlightening statement has convinced me that you must be a PhD or even higher, say a government drone?

145 posted on 02/12/2005 5:31:19 PM PST by EGPWS
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To: SheLion
It doesn't kill off everyone who smokes, only the unlucky few. And it's not a pretty sight when it does.

Yes, there are two sides. Nicotine addiction and common sense. Oh, and we mustn't forget libertarian extremists, who side with the addicts.

146 posted on 02/12/2005 5:31:42 PM PST by firebrand
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To: firebrand

Hey, worse things could happen!


147 posted on 02/12/2005 5:32:33 PM PST by EGPWS
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To: EGPWS

Okay, now I've been called someone who belongs on DU, a liberal, and someone whose mother didn't love her enough--but government drone? I'm going to hit the abuse button if this continues.


148 posted on 02/12/2005 5:33:12 PM PST by firebrand
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To: firebrand
"If you favor leeches and maggots, I rest my case."

You never had a case to rest.

149 posted on 02/12/2005 5:33:25 PM PST by TexasCowboy (Texan by birth, citizen of Jesusland by the Grace of God)
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To: EGPWS

EG - you're a pistol!!!!!

My life is a bad hair day!!! just kidding - I love my life.

We're in the midst of renovating/remodelling our house and my life has totally revolved around the kitchen for the past 2 days - and most of it has had nothing to do with cooking!!!


150 posted on 02/12/2005 5:34:14 PM PST by Gabz (Anti-smoker gnatzies...small minds buzzing in your business..............SWAT'EM)
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To: firebrand
Nicotine addiction and common sense.

Have you experienced enough of either of these to understand them?

151 posted on 02/12/2005 5:34:41 PM PST by EGPWS
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To: Gabz

Sorry you won't be coming back.


152 posted on 02/12/2005 5:35:08 PM PST by firebrand
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To: Clemenza

What evidence do you have for calling him "closet boy"? LOL


153 posted on 02/12/2005 5:38:16 PM PST by firebrand
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To: Gabz
EG - you're a pistol!!!!!

Naw, I'm not. It's in my pocket, however it's happy to see you Gabz! ; ~ >

LoL!

154 posted on 02/12/2005 5:38:16 PM PST by EGPWS
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To: Sandy
Do you have a link or a cite for this decision?

N.Y. Suit Against Internet Cigarette Sellers Dismissed, but City Can Refile

Also, is there a federal law that allows the states to interfere with interstate tobacco commerce?

To the best of my knowledge, no. NYC is trying to make their OWN laws regarding Internet sale of cigarettes.



155 posted on 02/12/2005 5:38:58 PM PST by SheLion (God bless our military members and keep them safe.)
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To: TexasCowboy

It's an idiomatic expression. It means your last statement makes you look like the idiot I thought you were.


156 posted on 02/12/2005 5:39:24 PM PST by firebrand
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To: firebrand
I'm going to hit the abuse button if this continues.

tick....tick...tick....

Can I stop biting my nails?

157 posted on 02/12/2005 5:41:33 PM PST by EGPWS
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To: firebrand
It doesn't kill off everyone who smokes, only the unlucky few. And it's not a pretty sight when it does.

Oh pluuuuse.  There aren't many of us that have had to witness that.  And you have, I am sorry.  But you haven't and are using that old garbage to scare us, pity you!

Yes, there are two sides. Nicotine addiction and common sense. Oh, and we mustn't forget libertarian extremists, who side with the addicts.

Addiction. Ah!  Addiction to a legal commodity.  Who would have thunk it.

And how about 55 million smokers in the US that just plain ole love to smoke for their enjoyment.  Oh yes!  What do YOU do for relaxation?  Booze or prescription drugs.  Common.  Fess up now!

158 posted on 02/12/2005 5:42:56 PM PST by SheLion (God bless our military members and keep them safe.)
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To: firebrand; Gabz
Sorry you won't be coming back.

WHO won't be coming back????? GABZ???????


159 posted on 02/12/2005 5:44:43 PM PST by SheLion (God bless our military members and keep them safe.)
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To: firebrand
Ahh, someone with the I.Q. of an amoeba calling someone else an idiot.
From you, that's a compliment.
160 posted on 02/12/2005 5:45:02 PM PST by TexasCowboy (Texan by birth, citizen of Jesusland by the Grace of God)
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