Posted on 02/12/2005 1:00:23 PM PST by CitizenM
Democrat putting up cash, saying Bible not clear on union of sexes
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His bet depends on his interpretation of the Bible. This shyster is looking for attention, nothing more.
I notice the "D" after Rep. Holmes name does that signify Devil or Demon as in the he is a liar and the Truth is not in him? To deny the plain Truth of the Word of God is willful foolishness. I pity the people that voted this one in.
"The husband should give to his wife her conjugal rights, and likewise the wife to her husband. For the wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does; likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife has… the unbelieving husband is made holy through his wife, and the unbelieving wife is made holy through her husband" (1Cor.7:3-4, 14).
Maybe if you change that to Kiss his arse - in a loving way, of course.
:) You betcha!!! Now this particular lawmaker is Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton rolled into one loveable fuzzball of outrageousness. He LOVES to be in the spotlight. When I lived in MOntgomery a week did not go by that his name was not mentioned in the news. :( Ugh.
"I say to the unmarried and to the widows: It is good for them if they so continue, even as I... he that gives his virgin in marriage does well; and he that gives her not does better" (1Cor.7:8,38)
I think this lawmaker is splitting hairs about the definition of the word marriage, not whether the Bible condones homosexuality.
The whole business about the definiton of 'is' still cracks me up after all this time. Even after that whole business, the MSM still pretends not to understand why the American people prefer a president who talks straight and doesn't split hairs over 'slick talkers' who dodge the issues with legalistic mumbo-jumbo. I shouldn't have to spend hours disecting speeches to figure out that a certain candidate would have pulled us out of Iraq the moment he was elected. </end rant>
Bump and ping.
I am not a Biblical scholar, but I am not sure the Bible talks about marriage at all. I am not sure what the Greek word is for union, but the Latin word is unus, which means one. It wasn't until middle English that union came to mean marriage. What will be interesting is to find out what it actually says in Greek. But, as far as I know the Bible doesn't talk about marriage specifically at all.
About these:
Hebrews 13, v 14 says: "Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge." Now identify whoremongers & adulterers in 1 Corinthians 6, v's 9-10 "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God."
(Genesis 2:22-24.)
22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
(1 Corinthians 11:7-12.)
7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.
8 For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man.
9 Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.
10 For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels.
11 Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord.
12 For as the woman is of the man, even so is the man also by the woman; but all things of God.
(1 Corinthians 7:2-4.)
2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.
3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.
4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.
(Leviticus 18:22.)
22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. (Leviticus 20:13.)
13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. (Romans 1:26-27.)
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
These are "controversial" to only those who wish them to be so.
Got $5000?
word of advice to dems,, Don't go messing with the Bible and re-interpreting it for the Clinton age.
On second thought, re-interpret and spin away. ;-)
Not for discretionary spending. Any edification is highly welcome. If you know Greek, I would appreciate if you can translate the relevant passages.
Good work!
[REF for later review > self ]
More passages are definitely applicable. A Strong's Exhaustive Concordance will help shed some more light on this important subject.
The politicians are clearly wrong on this one and will have to fork over cash (if asked to), but this is not over money, so I would recommend that they keep it.
This is clearly not a monetary issue, to say the least, as it is much more important than that. Introducing money and lucre into this issue as a wager is abominable.
Then why comment on a subject on which you have no knowledge?
I am not sure if any of these passages restrict marriage between men and women. I know nothing about the Bible, but would appreciate if anyone can look up the original Greek versions of those passages.
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