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Found in Translation (Wesley Clark refights a disgraceful war(Kosovo))
The American Prowler ^ | 2/3/2005 | Julia Gorin

Posted on 02/03/2005 12:24:21 AM PST by nickcarraway

While President Bush deposes despots and spreads democracy in the Middle East, this week in the Wall Street Journal Wesley Clark reminds us how Bill Clinton dismantled a democracy and helped create yet another mono-ethnic (Islamic) state in Europe's underbelly -- Kosovo. Not in so many words, of course -- Clark merely meant to endorse and outline independence for the former Yugoslavian province. That's why, for those who have not been following recent developments in the region, I offer a translation of Clark's assessment.

Clark writes, "With each passing day, tensions in Kosovo grow." Translation: With each passing day, Muslim Albanians grow angrier that there are still some Christian Serbs living in Kosovo.

"Nearly six years on, Serbs and Albanians still cannot live together." Translation: It is rather difficult to live with Albanians when they keep trying to kill you.

"Serbia's avowed aim is to prevent Kosovo from becoming independent." Translation: In furtherance of the 1999 U.N.-NATO position that Kosovo would be granted autonomy but never independence, Serbia's avowed aim is to prevent Kosovo from becoming an independent Islamic terrorist doorway into the rest of Europe, which it already is anyway.

"Neither side is ready for bridge-building." Translation: Albanians are still burning down bridges, homes, and churches.

"Further clashes…could result in an emergency partition of Kosovo's territory, creating a precedent threatening to unravel U.S. and EU investments in stabilizing multi-ethnic states throughout the Balkans." Translation: Further clashes could result in partitioning Kosovo and threatening to unravel Clinton's, Albright's, Holbrooke's, Berger's and my investments of taxpayer money in destabilizing the multi-ethnic state of Yugoslavia and creating mono-ethnic ones throughout the Balkans.

"After the rioting of last March, some have questioned whether this fragile, volatile and underdeveloped society either deserves or can sustain its own state." Translation: Ethnic cleansing and genocide of the Serbian population of Kosovo constitutes "rioting."

"While these concerns are valid, it is important to remember that Kosovo has already.developed the foundations of a modern, functioning economy." Translation: There is a thriving sex-slave trade, plus there's the drug trafficking whose profits go to further the aims of al Qaeda et al.

"The pace at which Kosovo is allowed to progress toward full independence should be made contingent on its treatment of minorities." Translation: Okay, so Albanians have killed a lot of Serbs. As my old boss would say, "Let's move on." If they don't kill any more, then they can have their state. Well, maybe one or two dead Serbs is okay. Or I guess a few dozen is bearable. Okay, but no more than a few hundred dead Serbs. Okay, a few thousand, but that's my final offer.

"Unlike the case of Iraq, there is today no active conflict in Kosovo." Translation: Since a conflict involves at least two parties killing each other, if only Albanians are killing Serbs, then there's no conflict.

Kosovo was a success after all.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arkansas; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: balkans; bush; clark; clinton; europe; islam; kosovo; terrorism; wesleyclark; x42

1 posted on 02/03/2005 12:24:21 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
Clark is the poster child for the inept, feckless imbeciles better known as the Perfumed Princes of Clinton's "military"..

The stupid bastard MUST have known he was being used to advance the Islamist's assault on Europe..

It is fitting he was a candidate of the Democrat party --- the Enemy Within...

Semper Fi
2 posted on 02/03/2005 12:38:43 AM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: river rat

Clinton, aiding and abetting foreign and domestic killers.


3 posted on 02/03/2005 1:15:45 AM PST by hmong
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To: nickcarraway

Good find. And there is another problem not mentioned above. A few wackos tried to accuse the Serbs of genocide. But that was over the top, so they used the term, 'ethnic cleansing'. [Am I mistaken or was the term first coined over this claim?]

The claims of genocide were a complete slander, based on false rumors. The opposite, in fact, is now occurring, thanks to Clinton.

Another point that can't be emphasized enough: WE DELIBERATELY TARGETED CHRISTIAN CIVILIANS! We blew up bridges during rush hour. We blew up a TV station. I don't remember all the targets we AIMED at, targets that we currently avoid at all cost? Why? We have a more humane president in the White House, one who does not veto partial-birth abortion, one who does not pardon crack dealers for cash, one who does not pardon terrorists for votes, and yet a president who is hated by the left rather than loved.

Kill Christian civilians and babies, and the left will love you.


4 posted on 02/03/2005 1:27:35 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Let's just chomp them up and move on!)
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To: nickcarraway

This is the only war American liberals will ever support: a war that is against the interests of the US.

Building a terrorist state in Kosovo is against the interests of the US. Therefore the liberals like it.


5 posted on 02/03/2005 2:27:49 AM PST by samtheman
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To: nickcarraway

bump


6 posted on 02/03/2005 4:58:41 AM PST by RippleFire ("It was just a scratch")
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
WE DELIBERATELY TARGETED CHRISTIAN CIVILIANS!

Horse manure, Arthur. First, we had more restictions on targetting in the Kosovo conflict than in any other war, to include the Afghanistan and the most recent Iraq War. Second, sorry to disappoint you, but our Air Force, Marine, and Navy pilots do not deliberately bomb civilians, Christian or otherwise. And it doesn't matter who the President is. It is illegal, it is a war crime, and if you have credible evidence that our pilots deliberately targetted civilians, please post it. I will personally ensure it gets provided to the appropriate service judge advocate so the responsible pilots and mission planners can be prosecuted for murder. Because that is what it is if what you say is true.

7 posted on 02/03/2005 8:36:35 PM PST by mark502inf
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To: mark502inf
There is no mistake that the civilian TV workers were deliberately targeted, as were other civilian targets (trains, buses, bridges with civilian traffic, hospitals, homes, modern art museum, electrical plants, etc).


8 posted on 02/03/2005 8:41:41 PM PST by joan
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To: joan
One of the trains deliberately bombed by NATO. One of the trains (I think yet a different one) was claimed to have darted out too fast from a tunnel - but then it was discovered NATO officials sped up the film 3x to make it seem like the pilots had less time to refrain from bombing a civilian train:




Civilians bombed in Aleksinac:






Nis market (a CIVILIAN target) hit by cluster bombs in the middle of the day:




9 posted on 02/03/2005 9:06:29 PM PST by joan
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To: mark502inf
Joan's pictures make a strong case that the US did deliberately attack civilians in their illegal aggression against Yugoslavia in 1999. Of course, there is always an excuse for each picture: innocent blood flows but it is always unintentional and, in a way, necessary in achieving the noble end of American military power. Rather than attempt to catalog a lengthy list of US attacks on civilians, one war crime comes to mind that has a special level of barbarousness: The Attack on the Al Amariyah Bomb Shelter in Baghdad in February of 1991. From 350-400 innocent woman, children, and old people were incinerated by two laser-guided bombs that entered through ventilation shafts, five minutes apart. Even the US excuse for the attack would never ward off conviction, if by some miracle an indictment could be brought (As you know, there is no statute of limitations on war crimes.). That the US would never intentionally attack civilians: That is part of the Myth, the Sacred Shroud that America attempts to cloak its foreign policy within, even though US History has its hideous periods of slavery and genocide.
10 posted on 02/03/2005 10:53:44 PM PST by Oplenac
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To: joan

Thank you for the photographic evidence. I do not fault our military for this strategy. In fact, a complete disregard for collateral damage has been SOP prior to the Bush administration. It takes incredible technology, skill, restraint, and military superiority for a nation to actually win through surgical strikes.

I am proud of our current president, and his effort to keep civilian deaths down to a minimum.


11 posted on 02/04/2005 1:37:05 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Let's just chomp them up and move on!)
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To: Oplenac

I agree that Clinton was abominable. But I do not want the UN's World Court to touch any US citizen. Any effort to validate the UN's authority to arrest Clinton would result in a two-step into arresting the UN's real enemies-- people like Bush, who messed up their Oil-for-Food rackateering.


12 posted on 02/04/2005 1:40:35 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Let's just chomp them up and move on!)
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To: mark502inf

"Horse manure, Arthur. First, we had more restictions on targetting in the Kosovo conflict than in any other war..."

How can we target a bridge during rush hour and be giving half a darn about civilian deaths?


13 posted on 02/04/2005 1:43:50 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Let's just chomp them up and move on!)
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To: Oplenac

"From 350-400 innocent woman, children, and old people were incinerated by two laser-guided bombs that entered through ventilation shafts, five minutes apart."

Was that the bombing that happened on the same day as Clinton's impeachment vote? There were also rumors of sending ground troops that day, as well.


14 posted on 02/04/2005 1:51:05 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Let's just chomp them up and move on!)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
oplenac: "From 350-400 innocent woman, children, and old people were incinerated by two laser-guided bombs that entered through ventilation shafts, five minutes apart." ... Arthur: Was that the bombing that happened on the same day as Clinton's impeachment vote? There were also rumors of sending ground troops that day, as well.

No Arthur. That happened 8 years previously in Baghdad in the Gulf War under President Bush. And that shelter was thought to be an underground C2 bunker--that is why it was attacked. Oplenac is an anti-American who occasionally posts here and whose ideas about American history are pretty much limited to slavery, Wounded Knee, Hiroshima and My Lai. Joan is a Serb extremist who also says Americans deliberately kill civilians and has stated that U.S. military actions in Iraq are worse than the Serb ethnic cleansing in Kosovo. And you, Arthur, appear to be their useful tool.

15 posted on 02/04/2005 6:58:46 AM PST by mark502inf
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
As Mark states the attack on the Al Amariyah Bomb Shelter took place 8 years before the attack on Yugoslavia. "And that shelter was thought to be an underground C2 bunker--that is why it was attacked." "...was thought to be...": Here is the usual excuse, that attempts to justify the crime, though the many hundreds of innocent show clearly that civilians were targeted.

Mark states that I am anti-American, though my criticism is always focused on unfair, unjust, or hypocritical policies of the US government--and not directed toward the people, or country as a whole.

16 posted on 02/04/2005 9:44:00 PM PST by Oplenac
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To: nickcarraway
You're aware, of course, are you not?...that Col. David Hackworth, who coined the epithet "Perfumed Prince," did so without ever having met Gen. Clark, and that once he interviewed him, recanted the statement and praised Clark effusively?
17 posted on 02/19/2005 1:35:30 PM PST by stan81747
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To: nickcarraway

Please notice this OFFICIAL DEFENSE DEPARTMENT COMMENDATION of General Wesley Clark regarding Kosovo by then Defense Secretary William Cohen on May 1, 2000:


http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/2000/t05022000_t501koso.html


DoD News Briefing

Monday, May 1, 2000
Presenter: Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen

(Also participating in the Joint Press Conference was Gen. Henry H. Shelton, Chairman, Joint Chief of Staff in Camp Bondsteel, Kosovo)


Sec Def.: We are hoping that we will provide the basis for the people of Kosovo to establish institutions that will make them self-governing. That there will be local elections held this fall. We want to see institutions built that will allow the people in Kosovo to function. That is our hope and that is why KFOR is here. We are hoping that as things stabilize more and more, that the UN and its mission can take over the major responsibilities in Kosovo. We cannot put a time table on that.

Q: This is General Clark's last visit to Kosovo today. Any word on how he has performed his job?

Sec Def.: He has done an extraordinary job. General Clark is one of our most brilliant officers. He undertook a mission that is perhaps one the most complicated and complex and carried it out successfully. As I mentioned in my remarks, this air campaign was the most successful in the history of warfare. We had over 38,000 sorties that were flown. We had only two planes that were shot down and no pilots lost. That is a record that is unparalleled in the history of warfare. So, General Clark and his entire staff and subordinates and all who participated deserve great credit.

Q: Why is he leaving office, then?

Sec Def.: He is leaving because we have General Ralston who will become the new SACEUR. We are now replacing many of our CINCs throughout the world.

Q: It is not a reflection on his performance?

Sec Def: No reflection at all. He has done an outstanding job as the Commander-in-Chief of U.S. Southern Command, and he did an outstanding job here as EUCOM Commander and also as SACEUR.


18 posted on 02/19/2005 11:34:51 PM PST by mitch dworkin
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