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'Made in the USA' a dying phrase?
www.newsday.com ^ | January 31, 2005 | Lauren Weber ,Staff Correspondent

Posted on 01/31/2005 8:54:52 AM PST by WmShirerAdmirer

CHERAW, S.C. - The spinning frames at the Cheraw Yarn Mills still hum 24 hours a day, seven days a week. The mint-green machines still turn out more than 4 million pounds of thread each month, destined for bras made by Vanity Fair, home furnishings covered with Richloom fabrics and the Soffe-brand cheerleading shorts worn by American girls everywhere.

The mill, in this tiny South Carolina town, is one of the last survivors of a U.S. industry that's been decimated over the past 10 years by apparel makers' quest for cheap materials and cheap labor overseas. Now, at the dawn of 2005, this 87-year-old company faces its greatest challenge yet.

Jan. 1 marked the expiration of the Multi-Fiber Agreement, the 30-year-old trade contract that set up a quota system regulating the flow of imported textiles and clothing into the United States, the world's single largest apparel market. Now that the agreement has expired, a huge additional segment of the apparel industry - from yarn-making to the cutting, sewing and finishing of garments - is expected to stream into China as though drawn by a magnet.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: buyamerican; foreign; globalism; imports; madeintheusa; manufacutring; trade
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To: narby

What is "Made In New York City" are ideas. And they come from a highly-trained, highly-paid work force. Even those things that are actually physically assembled, such as art, jewelry or very high end furniture, also require a highly-skilled work force. It's not a model that can be sustained for most of the country.


21 posted on 01/31/2005 9:28:19 AM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: eno_

Thanks so your reply and telling of your satisfaction, I was glad to read of your good experience. You mentioned Banana Republic...my brother's wife (they live in NYC,)bought a "fashionable" pea coat for him from J.Crew. At each of the first four wearings, the buttons promptly fell off. He had his wife take it pronto to an older American seamstress who has a shop nearby to secure the buttons on permanently for the life of the coat (which for what he paid for it, better be for a few years!)

Thanks again for your reply.


22 posted on 01/31/2005 9:31:01 AM PST by WmShirerAdmirer
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To: retrokitten
My Chrysler (now owned by a German company) was made in Canada.

My Dakota was made in the USA, before Chrysler became German. But it is difficult to find made in the USA automobiles. The best way, is build yourself. Italian Ferrarri and Lamborghini do this, with limited yearly runs. Build from the ground up. American kids used to call that - hot rodding, where they'd take the bare shell of a vehicle, and equip it however they would - maybe not with the engineering skill of an Italian or British or German, or Detroit, shop to be fair. Some of the early racers, who went on to manufacture for racing, did have military and engineering backgrounds, however, and did build well from the ground up. Early drag racers were getting times that people find difficult to achieve today without using 8-9K HP dragster engines.

23 posted on 01/31/2005 9:32:25 AM PST by sevry
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To: Old anti feminist
How much is this due to high union wages.

They are not necessarily always bad. Ben Davis is local outfit that produces a WIDE range of sizes for work jeans, where the black and white are actually presentable for almost any occasion. I believe they are union, but I could be wrong. Dan Post and others make quality boots. American made. Nice 'stetson' hats. Generally American made.

I think you can still buy American. The suit can be tailored by an American, wherever the fabric comes from. And so on.

24 posted on 01/31/2005 9:35:52 AM PST by sevry
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To: mlbford2

>I don't buy anything but Toyota/Lexis.<

SORRY 75% of Toyota's campaign contributions went to fonda-kerry. That's enough reason for me to stay away from Toyota.


25 posted on 01/31/2005 9:36:46 AM PST by bicyclerepair (Help I'm surrounded by RATS (S. FL))
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To: 1LongTimeLurker
I bought a Honda in 2003 which was made in Alabama with over 60% US-made parts. I bought an Acura in 2004 which was made in Ohio with over 65% US-made parts.

Yeah, I'm not sure what is considered "made in the USA" anymore.

The profits go to Japan. To their Japanese owners. Same as we used to do when US companies owned tin and copper mines in  Bolivia. We employed Bolivian labor.

26 posted on 01/31/2005 9:39:02 AM PST by dennisw (Pryce-Jones: Arab culture is steeped in conspiracy theories, half truths, and nursery rhyme politics)
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To: narby

Unless the Chinese are planning to contribute to our Social Security fund, this is going to tremendously impact it. When high-wage middle class people are put out of the labor pool as jobs are shipped overseas, that lessens the SS fund, which means the likelihood of reduced payout is greater.


27 posted on 01/31/2005 9:46:10 AM PST by henderson field
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To: WmShirerAdmirer
I've had an idea for a couple of years now. Someone should start a Patriot Mart. Sort of the Anti Wal-Mart. In order to have shelf space, the products sold must either have 60% or more of its manufacturing here in the US, or 60 to 70% of its employees here in the US, etc.

Would be an interesting experiment, would "made in the USA" be able to compete with the "rolling back prices" and jobs of Wal-Mart
28 posted on 01/31/2005 9:46:12 AM PST by Wisconsin155 (newbie)
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To: mlbford2
I don't buy anything but Toyota/Lexis. Sorry,just a better quality vehicle. IMO It is made in USA, though. $$$ shipped back to Japan I'm sure.

I'd love to see an update, but 8 years ago in Forbes they pointed out that 95% of Toyota is owned by Japanese shareholders. So the Japs reap the profits while naive America are grateful for the jobs

29 posted on 01/31/2005 9:47:47 AM PST by dennisw (Pryce-Jones: Arab culture is steeped in conspiracy theories, half truths, and nursery rhyme politics)
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To: Wisconsin155

You mean like Wal-Mart used to do? It didn't work out too well for them...


30 posted on 01/31/2005 9:48:23 AM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

bump


31 posted on 01/31/2005 9:50:04 AM PST by foreverfree
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To: Old anti feminist
For sure part of the problem. But the other half is we are competing with some companies that are gov't owned. They are just jobs programs for these countries, and wouldn't know a profit if it bit them in the butt.
32 posted on 01/31/2005 9:50:52 AM PST by Wisconsin155 (newbie)
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To: mlbford2
I don't believe that any Lexus is made in the U.S., though I believe that some of the RX 330s are manufactured in Canada.
33 posted on 01/31/2005 9:50:59 AM PST by snowsislander
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To: Old anti feminist
In my opinion, it's got everything to do with high Union wages. We subsidize out farm industries, our auto industries, our steel industries, I'm not sure that everywhere we have union manufacturing that there's not either a subsidy or a tariff involved.
34 posted on 01/31/2005 9:51:56 AM PST by Graycliff
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To: durasell

used to?

I thought their business plan was always cheap Chinese crap.

I didn't know they started out different.


35 posted on 01/31/2005 9:52:30 AM PST by Wisconsin155 (newbie)
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To: Wisconsin155

Originally Wal-Mart prided itself on selling "Made In USA" stuff. Then the business plan changed for price considerations.

There is still plenty of stuff "Made In USA" but it's very high end and expensive. The vast majority of the inexpensive, assembly line stuff is gone and will remain gone.


36 posted on 01/31/2005 9:55:08 AM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

Free trade. Killer of our manufacturing and money that goes to an enemy (China). I buy made in USA products wherever I find them. Not much but at least it is my part.


37 posted on 01/31/2005 9:55:56 AM PST by Paul_Denton (Shoot first and ask questions later)
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To: Independentamerican
Excellent Point. GM is having some of their engines built in China but Honda and BMW are building vehicles here in the states ?

Pretty ironic is it not?. It seems that foreign companies (at least as far as cars go) make more stuff in the US than US-based companies.

38 posted on 01/31/2005 9:57:52 AM PST by Paul_Denton (Shoot first and ask questions later)
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To: henderson field

Hadn't thought of that, thanks for input.


39 posted on 01/31/2005 10:01:43 AM PST by WmShirerAdmirer
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To: Old anti feminist
How much is this due to high union wages.

The article doesn't say anything about a union workforce, and says that wages average $13 per hour. But how low would you make the wages when you are competing with countries where the wage is only a few dollars per day?

40 posted on 01/31/2005 10:03:41 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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