Posted on 01/30/2005 7:07:08 PM PST by AncientAirs
Incompatible With Christian Religion, Says Historian
MADRID, Spain, JAN. 30, 2005 (Zenit.org).- To understand what is happening in Europe, the phenomenon of Masonry must be taken into account, says Protestant historian César Vidal.
The director of the program "La Linterna" of the Spanish bishops' COPE radio network, Vidal has just written a book, "Los Masones: La Historia de la Sociedad Secreta Más Poderosa" (The Freemasons: History of the Most Powerful Secret Society), published by Planeta.
Among other things, the book addresses the Masonic influence in the most important events of recent Spanish history, especially since the election last March of the Spanish Socialist Labor Party (PSOE).
Vidal says that "the secularist current promoted by the government headed by José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero shares more than enough Masonry's rank anti-clericalism."
The author explains that the Freemasons have an enormous role in the European Union and, by way of example, says that "the project of the European Constitution has been driven by a Freemason," Valéry Giscard D'Estaing, "who has excluded mention of the continent's Christian roots and, in addition, has insisted on the inclusion of an article that subjects the churches of the different nations but frees 'philosophical organizations' from that obligation."
Vidal has doctorates in history, philosophy and theology, and a law degree.
Q: Which outstanding personalities in Spain were and are Masons, a fact known by very few people?
Vidal: The list would be too long and some, only some, are mentioned in my book "The Freemasons." Suffice it to say by way of illustration that the Grand Master of the great Spanish east is Dr. Josep Corominas, PSOE deputy; that the special five-member commission that established Felipe González as the PSOE's secretary-general has three Masons among its members -- one of them the future president of the Senate -- and that Rodríguez Zapatero's grandfather was a Freemason.
Q: Can it be said that Masonry is behind the secularist current that is being witnessed in Spain?
Vidal: What can be said without danger of exaggeration is that the secularist current promoted by the government that José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero heads shares, more than enough, Masonry's rank anti-clericalism.
Q: What role does it have and might have in the European Union?
Vidal: Enormous if one takes into account that the project of the European Constitution has been promoted by a Freemason who has excluded mention of the continent's Christian roots and, in addition, has insisted on the inclusion of an article that subjects the Churches to the different nations but frees "philosophical organizations" from that obligation.
Q: In what way, over the last century, has Masonry been present in the history of Spain?
Vidal: Repeatedly and lamentably. A very important role must be attributed to Masonry in the pro-independence movements of Cuba and the Philippines, in anti-clerical and secularist campaigns, in the erosion of the parliamentary monarchy of the Restoration, going so far as to take recourse to terrorism, in the proclamation of the Second Republic and, very especially, in the redaction of a Republican Constitution which created a social break that led to the Civil War.
Q: Can you tell us about concrete events that prove its struggle against Catholicism?
Vidal: That is the history of Masonry since the 18th century, but suffice it to recall, by way of example, that Rodolfo Llopis, Freemason and Socialist, became secretary-general of the PSOE [and] promoted the anti-Christian educational legislation of the Second Republic; or scandals such as that of the Banca Ambrosiana which were linked directly to the Masons' action.
Q: What were Masonry's origins?
Vidal: The real origins of Masonry date back to the end of the 17th and early 18th centuries, when groups of individuals attracted by occult gnosis founded meeting places in which, supposedly, it was transmitted.
Of course, they talk about origins that refer to pagan religions, to gnosis, to a nonexistent personality of Solomon's time and also to the druids.
Q: What are its most characteristic features, objectives and present structure? Is it a religion?
Vidal: Though Freemasons deny it, the truth is that the Masonic cosmo-vision is not one proper to a philanthropic society as they often say, but that of a religion. That circumstance explains, precisely, the repeated condemnations of the Holy See and of the other Christian confessions, which consider membership in Masonry incompatible with Christianity.
Masonry might be described as a secret society, with an initiative structure, a gnostic cosmo-vision, and an existential manifestation which makes it easy for its members to help one another when it comes to occupying important posts in society.
Q: What percentage of Freemasons are there at present?
Vidal: Without a doubt, very small. In France it is said that they are not more than 0.6% of the population. However, that has not prevented their controlling the Socialist International or their spreading in the Right itself, through personalities such as Giscard D'Estaing.
Q: In what vital points of our society -- especially in economic, political and intellectual circles and the media -- are Freemasons present?
Vidal: There are sectors that have always been of interest to Freemasons. Needless to say, politics where they control the Socialist International and have entered powerfully in parties of the Right. No less is their weight in the world of communications and, very especially, their interest in education, justice and the armed forces.
In France, for example, the "affaire des fiches" revealed to what extent Masonic officers were promoted and Catholics, on the contrary, blocked from promotion. ZE05013020
And to all others on this thread that have defended Freemasonry-Thank you.
As a Mason, and one that values rational thought, I constantly marvel at the intentional ignorance of people like ExSoldier and PaperDoll. What I marvel at even more is how they wrap that ignorance in "Faith" and "Learning"
To the tinfoilers: You need to wrap another layer on. A suggestion: If you make the inner layer with the shiny side in, it keeps your thoughts from leaving. Then put another layer shiny side out to keep the mind control rays from penetrating and reading your deep dark secrets.
Then turn up the rate of your thorazine drip, get a shiny object to go with your Anti-Mason Conspiracy Comic Book and drool quietly in the corner.
Just quit attacking decent people with your ignorance
Oh I'm not so sure that they get away with it with no consequence. In fact I think that any thinking man or woman looking at some of their more stupid utterings, just shake their heads in sadness and wonderment.
Since there are many Masonic and Shriner FREEPERS,as well as the wives, daughters,granddaughters,and nieces of Masons and Shriners here,I don't understand why this is so. Then there is the fact that many of our FFs were Masons and without them,this nation would be something very different...IF it existed at all.
Not to forget the good work that Masons and their affilate bodies do for society in general. Shriner's Hospitals alone each year do millions of dollars worth of free care for burned and crippled children. The York Rite lodge's Eye Foundation each year makes it possible for thousands of needy people to receive free eye care and glasses. And the list goes on and on.
LOL, thanks for your comments. I especially loved the tin-foil advice.
You're welcome
I often see you on these threads, and appreciate your thoughts. I have no thad much of an opportunity to jump in, but will when I can
Yes, that is how I viewed it at first, as a "seeker," looking for the "great truths," promised by "worshipful master," but later it offered truths that the masters really wished to conceal. It is the true bible of masonry, although those here to 'cool the marks' will attempt to diffuse that fact. It reveals what they truly believe, and what their true goals are. If you want to know who the true enemies of freedom are, you must read it analytically to find their confession.
In your view, who are the advocates of freedom, what freedoms do they defend, and how do they go about defending them?
What gibberish. The only true bible of Masonry is the Holy Bible.
.... although those here to 'cool the marks' will attempt to diffuse that fact. It reveals what they truly believe, and what their true goals are. If you want to know who the true enemies of freedom are, you must read it analytically to find their confession.
Well let's see now Albert Pike wrote in the late 19th century. We Masons must be doing something wrong, why haven't we taken over the world yet? Or maybe we have and I just haven't got the word? Is W. a Mason? Is he in on the secret?
Thanks, Axel.
Gen. 4:22
And as for Zillah, she also bore Tubal-Cain, an instructor of every craftsman in bronze and iron. And the sister of Tubal-Cain was Naamah.
Tubal-Cain was not a witch, but rather as Genesis 4 indicates - a worker of metals.
Yes, that is how I viewed it at first, as a "seeker," looking for the "great truths," promised by "worshipful master," but later it offered truths that the masters really wished to conceal.
A link to some good reads on the truth about Freemasonry.
http://www.masonicinfo.com/books/isittrue.htm
No,only 33 degrees,a lot of the other stuff was just silly/pulling legs things. :-)
"The teachings of these readings are not scramental, so far as they go beyond the realm of Morality into those of other domains of Thought and Truth. The Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite uses the word "Dogma" in its true sense, of doctrne, or teaching; and is not dogmatic in the odious sense of that term. Every one is entirely free to reject and dissent from whatsoever herein may seem to him to untrue or unsound. It is only required of him that he shall weigh what is taught, and give it fair hearing and unprejudiced judgement."
................Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma
Many thanks. :-)
When the Catholic church went after the Masons,it was a time when it was still VERY antisemitic,called the Jews "CHRIST KILLERS",and told Catholics that there was no such religion as Protestantism...that Protestants were HERITICS who were NOT Christians at all.Add to that,the Catholic church told it's members that they shouldn't associate with non-Catholics socially.
The throw in the money and power bits,stir well,and you get the denouncement of Masons too.
As I said,after the French Revolution,that French priest blamed who for it? THE JEWS AND THE MASONS! WHAT JEWS???????????????????????????????????///
Many thanks to YOU,for your post! :-)
All too true! :-)
GEORGE WASHINGTIN
THE GREEN MOUNTAIN BOYS AND EVERY MEMBER OF THE BOSTON TEA PARTY
BEN FRANKLIN
JOHN HANCOCK
JAMES MONROE
MARQUIS DE LAFAYETTE
DAVY CROCKETTE
SAM HOUSTON
And so many others,far better men than you'll REVER be!
And yes,most of the above were 32 and 33 degree Masons!
You're just so full of hatred,bile,and spurious,ill-educated,ill informed biases,that it's beyond belief.
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