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To: WildTurkey; betty boop; Alamo-Girl
My bad. I guess I have been so disillusioned by being "tricked" by BB

If I may play referee here for a moment, since I think you two have been unintentionally talking past each other a bit...

It looks to me as if WildTurkey took betty boop's earlier offer to "root out evil" as a playfully worded but sincere offer to help get some inaccurate/dishonest creationist sources to correct their falsehoods, if some examples could be provided which need correcting. That's also how I understood her post.

WT listed some examples (although not giving citations to who/where they've been promulgated, which is necessary information if we're going to try to get the source(s) to correct themselves).

BB responded in different ways to various items in the list, pointing out that some might be arguable, but agreeing to others, and deflecting some by saying that she herself has never said such a thing (although that wasn't the nature of the list in the first place).

From WT's side, it seems as if he feels let down that BB just treated the list as a discussion item, and didn't follow up on her offer to make sure that such claims get corrected at their source. He feels that BB reneged on her offer.

From BB's side, it seems as if she missed WT's interpretation of her post, and thus saw WT's subsequent reference to her "rooting out evil" line as focusing on the word "evil", and she laughed off WT's comment because her use of the word "evil" was flippant, not literal. But WT's focus was actually on the apparent offer to "root out" the original misrepresentations that were being made by some creationists.

In the end, WT felt that an offer had been broken, and BB felt baffled at the response, but this was all due more to misunderstandings than anything else.

At least, that's my take -- if it helps y'all to reach some kind of agreement, great. If not, just feel free to ignore me.

1,299 posted on 02/01/2005 2:13:32 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Ichneumon
In the end, WT felt that an offer had been broken, and BB felt baffled at the response, but this was all due more to misunderstandings than anything else.

That was my take to, Ichneumon--aside from various cross-chatter involving dictionaries and the entrance of Balrog...

Cheers!

1,300 posted on 02/01/2005 2:16:13 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Ichneumon

Pretty close, from my side.


1,304 posted on 02/01/2005 2:22:04 PM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: Ichneumon

I took the offer seriously also. I think I have had only one tantrum on this thread, and it was regarding the concentration camps.


1,305 posted on 02/01/2005 2:24:20 PM PST by js1138
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To: Ichneumon; WildTurkey; Alamo-Girl; marron; PatrickHenry; cornelis; StJacques; ckilmer; ...
It looks to me as if WildTurkey took betty boop's earlier offer to "root out evil" as a playfully worded but sincere offer to help get some inaccurate/dishonest creationist sources to correct their falsehoods, if some examples could be provided which need correcting. That's also how I understood her post.

You are most gracious, Ichneumon, to step into this fray! Looks like I owe WildTurkey an apology, despite the fact that by no means was I trying to "trick him" or make him look like a fool. It was just a light-hearted moment.

FWIW, I can get just as torqued off by certain claims that "creationists" make as you or WT. In my case, I think it is ill-advised (man, am I gonna catch HAIL for using that word!) to read the sublime language of the Holy Scriptures literally, as if the Book were no more than a "how-to manual" or "textbook."

If WildTurkey would like to, we can start off fresh. If there's any particular statement of the anti-evo crowd to which he particularly objects, we could start there. Then we can all jump on it!

Thanks again, Ichneumon!

1,495 posted on 02/02/2005 11:07:10 AM PST by betty boop
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