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Bush family traced back to invader of Ireland (Bush's Fault Alert:)
Globe and Mail ^ | 27 Jan 2005 | Agence France-Presse

Posted on 01/27/2005 5:09:57 PM PST by Cornpone

DUBLIN -- U.S. President George W. Bush is descended from Norman nobleman Richard de la Clare, known as Strongbow, who led the invasion of Ireland in the 12th century, genealogists said yesterday.

Mr. Bush is also descended from the Celtic king of the Irish province of Leinster, Dermot McMurrough, who was denounced as a traitor and whose daughter Aoife married Strongbow. The Bush family is already aware that it is descended from Norman gentry who lived in England in the late Middle Ages. But Irish historian Ann Griffin Bernstorff found the Irish genealogical link by working on the Ross, one of the biggest tapestries in Europe that retraces the birth of New Ross, founded in 1207 by William Marshall, son of Strongbow.

Separated by 30 generations, Mr. Bush is a direct descendant of William Marshall, who was married to Isabelle de Clare.

"It's all very intriguing really," Ms. Griffin Bernstorff told the Irish Times.

"We had heard rumours that this was a possibility, then one of our committee members had a Republican friend in Chicago," she said. "We got the genealogy chart from there and made the link to the de Clare family. It's an ancient Irish family, one of the oldest on the island, stretching back to the mists of time."

Mr. Bush is also descended from Anne Marbury Hutchinson, an English Puritan who arrived in America in 1634 aboard the Griffin and who settled in Boston.

According to the family tree established by Anne and Alexis Bernstorff, Anne Marbury was a direct descendant of Anglo-Norman nobleman John the Strange, and before him Gilbert the Red, Gilbert de Clare, count of Gloucester and Hereford.

Gilbert the Red, who married Joan of England, daughter of King Edward I, was none other than the grandson of William Marshall, whom the Plantagenets called the finest flower of chivalry.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Political Humor/Cartoons
KEYWORDS: bush; genealogy; ireland
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To: Happygal
"I'm from Wexford (and live less than 20 miles from New Ross)."

Always great to hear from friends on the other side of the pond...Tá fáilte romhat.

21 posted on 01/27/2005 5:28:55 PM PST by Cornpone (Aging Warrior -- Aim High -- Hit'em in the Head)
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To: Cornpone
Go raibh maith agat! :-)

If this is true, it will give me an interesting story for one of the publications I work on though! :-)

22 posted on 01/27/2005 5:31:26 PM PST by Happygal (liberalism - a narrow tribal outlook largely founded on class prejudice)
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To: Cornpone

I come from a long line of bachelors, myself.


23 posted on 01/27/2005 5:32:14 PM PST by ikka
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To: Cornpone

Cheney is a descendant of the House of LargeLoins.


24 posted on 01/27/2005 5:39:54 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Denny Crane: "I look to two things: First to God and then to Fox News.")
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To: Cornpone

25 posted on 01/27/2005 5:39:54 PM PST by BenLurkin (Big government is still a big problem.)
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To: Cornpone

I am supposedly descended from Elizabeth Plantagenet. Edward I was "Longshanks" of Braveheart fame. Joan was his second child. Elizabeth was his 12th.


26 posted on 01/27/2005 5:40:40 PM PST by Mercat (Forgiveness is part of Your plan.)
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To: Cornpone

Whatcha gonna do about those old, wild genes! I am descended from King Haakon, through Somerled, got all these raging, politically incorrect, wild barbarian antecedants!
In other words, I can't help it, it is My destiny! If You have an urge to be queer, O.K., must be YOUR genes.
I have an urge to be really free, sorry, I just can't help it. It is My fate!
BUAIDH NO BAS, MACDHUGAILL FOREVER!
There are two distinct varieties of Homo Sapiens on this Earth, one of them is gonna have to to go away! I take strength from the knowledge that My President comes from good stock. Thank God no one is talking about "French Connections"


27 posted on 01/27/2005 5:40:42 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER
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To: Cornpone

So, does this mean the next time the left attack W and call the Iraq war just a needless invasion, we can say "Well, he couldn't help it, it's in his genes."? Thereby totally disarming the left because, after all, isn't that the way they think? "Well, if it is genetic, then that's OK."


28 posted on 01/27/2005 5:41:46 PM PST by SolidRedState (Free Martha)
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To: Cornpone

There was two De Clare sisters who married one, on my dads side, and the other on my moms side. The whole works also intermarried, often cousins to cousins over and over again.
It was the Bruces who gained control over the Scottish Crown who also were Normans-which actually means "Norse Men" if broken down. The Bruce name back then meant "The Cadet" or something like that.

Lots of problems in heridity over that interbreeding..for a lack of better word.

So in short, Bush can ID himself with all the royals in England and Europe as can about fifteen bejillion other people. A very large majority of folks that came over in the 1600s were of noble birth in someway. Being a lot were Puritans, they left to escape the persecutions. Remember that Oliver Cromwell was around and all at that time. After he started to loose power, they were worried about another Bloody Mary episode and got out fast and rightly so as they really got to waring within the UK with the covenanters and all that.


29 posted on 01/27/2005 5:43:01 PM PST by crz
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
My grandfather Duncan; my great grandfather Duncan; my great, great grandfather Duncan; my great, great, great, grandfather Duncan; my great, great...(well you get the message), Thank you...American since 1746.
30 posted on 01/27/2005 5:45:42 PM PST by Cornpone (Aging Warrior -- Aim High -- Hit'em in the Head)
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To: BenLurkin

Bush: Ay, fight and you may die, run and you'll live. At least a while. And dying in your beds many years from now, would you be willing to trade all the days from this day to that for one chance, just one chance to come back here and tell our enemies that they may take our lives, but they'll never take our freedom.

Kerry: The trouble with America is that it's full of Americans.

;^ )


32 posted on 01/27/2005 5:48:10 PM PST by Splatter (A foolish man is able to learn, has the opportunity, and does not do it..)
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To: Jeremiah Jr
But Irish historian Ann Griffin Bernstorff found the Irish genealogical link by working on the Ross, one of the biggest tapestries in Europe that retraces the birth of New Ross, founded in 1207 by William Marshall, son of Strongbow.

Red states ping.

33 posted on 01/27/2005 5:50:53 PM PST by Thinkin' Gal
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To: silent_jonny
Sounds like good stock--except for that "John The Strange" character. Wonder how he earned that name?

He was a liberal.

34 posted on 01/27/2005 5:53:38 PM PST by jimthewiz (An armed society is a polite society)
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To: Cornpone

When Adam delved and Eve twained who then was the gentleman? Chaucer


35 posted on 01/27/2005 5:59:27 PM PST by shrinkermd
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To: ChicagoHebrew
Actually, Kerry's paternal grandfather is Jewish. His original family name is "Kohn" not "Kerry"

Is he the one who killed himself? I know Kerry actually celebrated something across the street where an ancestor of his committed suicide.

36 posted on 01/27/2005 6:03:19 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Cornpone

Ol Gilbert "the Red" must have had a few daughters.

Eleanor de Clare married Hugh DeSpencer who is on my moms side

Margaret de Clare married Hugh De Audley who daughter married into the Staffods of Staffordshire England.

Of Course of Gilbert might have had several wives..gonna have to look into this bit of history


37 posted on 01/27/2005 6:05:33 PM PST by crz
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To: socal_parrot
I believe he possessed the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch at one time.

John the Strange: You tit! I soiled my armor I was so scared.

38 posted on 01/27/2005 6:09:08 PM PST by JustaCowgirl (You have seen that life is fragile, and evil is real, and courage triumphs -- George W Bush)
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To: silent_jonny
......except for that "John The Strange" character. Wonder how he earned that name?

He was the early day founder of the liberal movement.

39 posted on 01/27/2005 6:09:46 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: don-o

LOL.
This ping is for you.


40 posted on 01/27/2005 6:10:28 PM PST by onyx ("First you look to God, then to Fox News" -- Denny Crane, Republican...lol.)
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